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    Posted: 15 Jan 2013 at 9:49am
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Whats the recognized scientific name for Snapper? 

A book I have says  Pagrus auratus , while fishbase seems to prefer Chrysophrys auratus?

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Ive always used the latter....but..??

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Pagrus auratus
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Ha ha... my son did a speech at Primary school a couple of years ago about snapper...  We used "chrysophrus Aratus"

But looks like we were wrong??Confused yes / no ?

We were up at Toot in the weekend.. We went for a look in the club-rooms.. and they had a trophy there... I think for the "snapper world cup"  I cant remember exactly the title... but it was a pretty impressive thing in a glass case..   and it was referred to as chrysophrus Aratus" 

So if its Pagrus... then whats Chrysophrus?

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http://www.fish.govt.nz/en-nz/Recreational/Most+Popular+Species/Fish+Identification/S+-+Z/Snapper.htm
http://www.forestandbird.org.nz/what-we-do/publications/-best-fish-guide-/snapper
seems Forest and Bird and MAFISH cannot even agree, and Wikipedia takes a dollar each way
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Pagrus is much more common and was the first to describe 'snapper' in a scientific document but seems the are two correct answers to this one for now.....take your pick.

http://fishbase.sinica.edu.tw/summary/speciessummary.php?id=6426
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There used to be a similar disagreement over kingfish, albeit at the species rather than genus level, with the 2 contenders being Seriola lalandi and Seriola grandis. S.lalandi is used for Amberjack, & apparently kingies are considered a sub-species of amberjack rather than a separate species, hence the current accepted name of Seriola lalandi lalandi. On such things the world turns. Confused
 
Interestingly, neither entry (S.grandis or S.lalandi lalandi) appears in Fishbase.  Wonder if the wind has eased off yet. 
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Originally posted by I_caught_a_Paketi I_caught_a_Paketi wrote:

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are you five years old?
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[QUOTE=Kezza]Pagrus is much more common and was the first to describe 'snapper' in a scientific document but seems the are two correct answers to this one for now.....take your pick.

http://fishbase.sinica.edu.tw/summary/speciessummary.php?id=6426[/QUOTE]
 
"The genus assignment is problematic and not currently correctly solved between Pagrus Cuvier, 1816 and Chrysophrys Quoy & Gaimard, 1824" does indeed seem to indicate there is not an answer, but Pagarus does seem to be favoured more recently....
 
"Paulin, C.D., 1990. Pagrus auratus, a new combination for the species known as "snapper" in Australasian waters "
 
so I'll bow to Kezza's Pagarus
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oh so they are not called dinnerClown
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Originally posted by Blue Asparagus Blue Asparagus wrote:

oh so they are not called dinnerClown
yes they can be, but usually not by a bespectacled ichthyologist LOL
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