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BAKED.....are you always this judgmental with people?LOL..I guess you dont own a stella then?LOL
The guy asked for opinions on a top water reel and was tossing up between the two reels he mentioned...I gave my opinion on my experience....I personally dont like reels made in malaysia and i have bought a fair few.
I stick by what i say...you only get what you pay for and you never regret paying for quaility.
Many have done what i said and then sold their reels and bought a stella....I use mine on the rocks as well as boat and if you look after them you can keep them tidy like i have....
 To the thread poster=good luck with your choice but 400-500 bucks is a lot of money to spend on a reel too.just like 800-1,000 is...i spent 400-500 and ****ed up.Found the spheros had internal problems too ...Hence the advice.Wink
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"Yea 1 day I may upgrade to a stella, but this is my 1st decent spin set."
My point is here mate that you will lose money on this reel one day when you sell it,if bought new(just like the person who has just sold it to you) and then you just buy another reel......my advice was to not mess around when you know in the long run you want the best........however...you have a good score there and who knows, you might well be perfectly happy with that reel....and that my friend ,is totally your call !       good luck with it...all you need is  a good rod nowWink

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Nice reel that Saltist, SDM!
You should be pretty happy with that one for Top Water!
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Originally posted by JK JK wrote:

I use 50lb braid on a saragosa 8000 for top water fishing off the rocks and have landed kings to 20kg with it but also been dusted by a couple of BIG fish.

Good size reel in terms of weight etc but slightly undergunned for the bigger fish. 

Don't think they do a 10000 or 12000 sized saragosa in NZ?


How do you mean undergunned there JK? Drag, capacity? I run a Shimano 8000 size ( sustain) and think it's got sufficient drag and capacity for off the rocks. They pack alot of drag for me to hold onto and effectively fish from the rocks. Do you think a larger reel would have saved you?
I personally rekon it's part and parcel of LB fishing, just kinda tough from the rocks when they get up and boogie, and found less drag in such scenarios will better stop their runs and settle them down often rather than dialing it up.
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From the two reels in the question

Saragosa +1

My 18000 is an awsome reel. You don't need to spend extra money to catch a fish bro, sure the stella is nice, but its not going to land anything that a Saragosa wouldn't straight out of the box in NZ. 

Great reel, very nice drag.

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I see LBD has forgotten to take his pills again  LOL
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I never forget to take my pills mate...how about you?LOL
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Originally posted by Tipper Tipper wrote:

I see LBD has forgotten to take his pills again  LOL



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Fin nor offshore 9500 is another option $300 approx, a little heavy but one tough reel (27.2 kg max drag).

I would choose a Saltist over a saragosa if to choose out of those two though and only saying that because i just watched big angry fish again LOL.
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I don't think LBD's advice is foolish...

The "Stella" always seems to ruffle feathers, but if a budding topwater fisherman takes LBD's advice they will be in good steed. 
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Originally posted by sizedoesntmatter sizedoesntmatter wrote:

Have been looking at getting a top water set, Wanting to spend around $450 for the reel and like the look of the shimano saragosa 1800 or the daiwa saltist 6000 or 6500. Opinions?
 
LBD is WAAAAYYY off the mark if you read the initial post - $450 budget. Some of us have families and budgets, or in my case I blew last weeks wages on male escorts.
 
I have the Saragosa 18000, but want a Saltist 6500 (tackle envy syndrome methinks), and find that this budget CAN work well,  just not for chasing Tongan monster GTs, or Ranfurly 35kg freight trains.  18000 also swaps to a 180g jig rod for vertical kingfishing at a stretch.
 
But how many of us ever go to these places regularly ? (When I occaisionally do, I use the Skippers Stellas LOL)
 
I took the good advice of Yeeha, who understand my budget, my skill levels, local fishing areas and my patterns, and they have not put me wrong yet.   A Stella is simply not the only reel that can land inshore kingfish.
 
LBD.. raghhh raghh, wander off topic.....rant, speling mustakes,  more rant, ...Stella, off topic (yet more dots) followed by a grunt.
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Tipper...the idea of this forum is for everyone to have their say without some judgmental prik come down on them(making it personal)...my advise had its place and was to the point(like sam said)..unlike yours, which is just plain rude.Cant you be friendly? Or is it beyond your brain capacity?
     Its not like i ever farted in your car or anything,youd know about it if i did LOLLOL
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I agree, If you can wait and get the best,, cheaper in the long run and you have it for life,
Top of the range Stella is a weapon !!!!
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