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   <title><![CDATA[Saragosa or Saltist : I agree, If you can wait and get...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=83067">tjm</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 83977<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 Nov 2012 at 4:18pm<br /><br />I agree, If you can wait and get the best,, cheaper in the long run and you have it for life,<div>Top of the range Stella is a weapon !!!!</div>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Saragosa or Saltist : Tipper...the idea of this forum...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=67244">laidbackdood</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 83977<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Nov 2012 at 2:13pm<br /><br />Tipper...the idea of this forum is for everyone to have their say without some&nbsp;judgmental prik come down on them(making it personal)...my advise had its place and was to the point(like sam said)..unlike yours, which is just plain rude.Cant you be friendly? Or is it beyond your brain capacity?<div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Its not like i ever farted in your car or anything,youd know about it if i did LOL<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Saragosa or Saltist :      sizedoesntmatter wrote:Have...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=79469">Tipper</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 83977<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 Nov 2012 at 6:58am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by sizedoesntmatter" alt="Originally posted by sizedoesntmatter" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>sizedoesntmatter wrote:</strong><br /><br />Have been looking at getting a top water set, Wanting to spend around $450 for the reel and like the look of the shimano saragosa 1800 or the daiwa saltist 6000 or 6500. Opinions?</td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>LBD is WAAAAYYY off the mark if you read the initial post - $450 budget. Some of us have families and budgets, or in my case I blew last weeks wages on male escorts.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I have the Saragosa 18000, but want a Saltist 6500 (tackle envy syndrome methinks), and find that this budget CAN work well,&nbsp; just not for chasing Tongan monster GTs, or Ranfurly 35kg freight trains.&nbsp; 18000 also swaps to a 180g jig rod for vertical kingfishing at a stretch.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>But how many of us ever go to these places regularly ? (When I occaisionally do, I use the Skippers Stellas <img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />)</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I took the good advice of Yeeha, who understand my budget, my skill levels, local fishing areas and my patterns, and they have not put me wrong yet.&nbsp;&nbsp; A Stella is simply not the only reel that can land inshore kingfish.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><em>LBD.. raghhh raghh, wander off topic.....rant, speling mustakes,&nbsp; more rant, ...Stella, off topic (yet more dots) followed by a grunt</em>.</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 06:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Saragosa or Saltist : I don&amp;#039;t think LBD&amp;#039;s...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=76906">ReelAppealLures</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 83977<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Nov 2012 at 11:47pm<br /><br />I don't think LBD's advice is foolish...<div><br></div><div>The "Stella" always seems to ruffle feathers, but if a budding topwater fisherman takes LBD's advice they will be in good steed.&nbsp;</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Saragosa or Saltist : Fin nor offshore 9500 is another...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=72189">Corokingi</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 83977<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Nov 2012 at 11:33pm<br /><br />Fin nor offshore 9500 is another option $300 approx, a little heavy but one tough reel (27.2 kg max drag).<br><br>I would choose a Saltist over a saragosa if to choose out of those two though and only saying that because i just watched big angry fish again <img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />.]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Saragosa or Saltist :     Tipper wrote:  I see LBD...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=71922">Baked Fish</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 83977<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Nov 2012 at 9:43pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Tipper" alt="Originally posted by Tipper" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Tipper wrote:</strong><br /><br />I see LBD has forgotten to take his pills again&nbsp; <img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></td></tr></table><br><br><br><img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" border="0" alt="Clap" title="Clap" />&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /><img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /><img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Saragosa or Saltist : I never forget to take my pills...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=67244">laidbackdood</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 83977<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Nov 2012 at 9:26pm<br /><br />I never forget to take my pills mate...how about you?<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Saragosa or Saltist :   I see LBD has forgotten to...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=79469">Tipper</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 83977<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 07 Nov 2012 at 5:16pm<br /><br />I see LBD has forgotten to take his pills again&nbsp; <img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 17:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Saragosa or Saltist : From the two reels in the questionSaragosa...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=59172">chad</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 83977<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 Oct 2012 at 1:06pm<br /><br />From the two reels in the question<div><br></div><div>Saragosa +1</div><div><br></div><div>My 18000 is an awsome reel. You don't need to spend extra money to catch a fish bro, sure the stella is nice, but its not going to land anything that a Saragosa wouldn't straight out of the box in NZ.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Great reel, very nice drag.</div><div><br></div><div>Only down fall, is the silly cosmetics fall off.....</div>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Saragosa or Saltist :     JK wrote:I use 50lb braid...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=72813">fish i</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 83977<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 Oct 2012 at 11:00pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by JK" alt="Originally posted by JK" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>JK wrote:</strong><br /><br />I use 50lb braid on a saragosa 8000 for top water fishing off the rocks and have landed kings to 20kg with it but also been dusted by a couple of BIG fish. <br><br>Good size reel in terms of weight etc but slightly undergunned for the bigger fish.&nbsp; <br><br>Don't think they do a 10000 or 12000 sized saragosa in NZ?<br></td></tr></table><br><br>How do you mean undergunned there JK? Drag, capacity? I run a Shimano 8000 size ( sustain) and think it's got sufficient drag and capacity for off the rocks. They pack alot of drag for me to hold onto and effectively fish from the rocks. Do you think a larger reel would have saved you?<br>I personally rekon it's part and parcel of LB fishing, just kinda tough from the rocks when they get up and boogie, and found less drag in such scenarios will better stop their runs and settle them down often rather than dialing it up. <br>]]>
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