I have been using the FG knot for a number of years now , mostly out of a small boat , as good as the video of the knot with the reel is , I think if you learn it with your fingers as in wrapping the braid around you little finger and making the triangle with you other 2 fingers it is a lot easyer when you are rolling around , as for leader as Yeehaa has pointed out they are top brands , but there are a number of cheaper ones that work just as good , Dam for one for lighter line class to PE 5 , Jenki is another that I have used and still do to PE 8  , I have used Synder as a short leader , not as good but still works with out a problem , its all a price point ,

ReelAppealLures wrote: PoppinTonga wrote: Hey fish i, that is one awesome version of the knot you found.  I have been trying to tie that knot for months and my retarded hands just would not do it.   That version is the best and easiest I have seen.   THANKS!!  Just got to try it on a fish now. The technique looks similar to using the EZ Knotter... Let us know how the knot holds up Kurt, at no point did I see him tighten the wraps by pulling on it  The EZ Knotter would be good if your hands are letting you down.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWpWiCSSgek

When you pull the leader back straight after doing the figure 8 the criss-cross pulls down tight and snug against the previous one biting into the leader so there is no need to "pull on it". Give it a go, you will be surprised how easy and effective it is, and a whole lot less fiddly.

Looking forward to trying that Prosele leader .

Hah! I finally manage to learn the triangle between the fingers way, and then clicked on this, to see that vid fish i. Damn, looks so much easier - will give it a go

Yep' Sebile for me use it for casting and jigging no prob's . Fisherman and Vari' are my pick for leader material but will be trying the Prosele also when it arrives. With heavier casting Baits it doesn't matter so much but these softer leader materials work the smaller Stick baits ( Runboh etc) much better and dont kink or retain as much spool memory when stored for awhile IMO.

fish i wrote: ReelAppealLures wrote: PoppinTonga wrote: Hey fish i, that is one awesome version of the knot you found.  I have been trying to tie that knot for months and my retarded hands just would not do it.   That version is the best and easiest I have seen.   THANKS!!  Just got to try it on a fish now. The technique looks similar to using the EZ Knotter... Let us know how the knot holds up Kurt, at no point did I see him tighten the wraps by pulling on it  The EZ Knotter would be good if your hands are letting you down.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWpWiCSSgek When you pull the leader back straight after doing the figure 8 the criss-cross pulls down tight and snug against the previous one biting into the leader so there is no need to "pull on it". Give it a go, you will be surprised how easy and effective it is, and a whole lot less fiddly.

Tried both knots yesterday, one by hand and other using the reels drag.  Found both hold well but when doing the reel way it seems to twist the leader a bit an the knot finishes up a bit twisted while the hand way is straight as. 

I FG all my gear except for jigging wen PR comes into its own,also when melting the trace into a mushroom don't put the flame directly onto it or let it go black and crunchy as when u apply pressure the mushroom will pop off if flame was In direct contact,u want to use bottom of flame the blue part to melt it,keep it close enough to melt but not to burn,so for casting the FG sure is easier on the guides and more streamlined,were as the PR is a bit chunkier and slowly but surely will pop one of those Fujii eyes out!

i watched the guy in a shop try and do a fg knot, he made it look so complicated it hurt....i  then found this guy

fish i wrote: This is the best, easiest and most effective FG version, and it has won me over. You use the tension of your reel's drag, frees your hands up and real easy. Piece of piass, if you can handle the porno elevator jazz. I use it on my softbait and stray lining gear as well.

really works! superb