PR or FG? & why?
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Topic: PR or FG? & why?
Posted By: Snag
Subject: PR or FG? & why?
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 11:13pm
| Any reasons to which one is the go?. |
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Posted By: Saltiga
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 11:23pm
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FG, why i feel its more streamlined through the guides and its a smaller knot which lessening the friction therefore getting more distance. alot of people cant tie it so use PRs
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Posted By: rassie13
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 3:19am
| FG i find it easy to tie, its slim and strong as mailto:f@*$k - f@*$k ive never had one fail on me |
Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 8:26am
FG...cause Konishi doe's  ..and that cool cat SJ..!
I have mastered it in my own mind,it is easy to tie,reliable,casts well,no tools,use it for jigging and popping...FG all day every day!
Use what you have 110% faith in..I know when I hook up on a GT or King I can give it everything I have,my weakest link then becomes me . ------------- as dead as dead is |
Posted By: Aaron32987
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 9:29am
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Find a version of the FG that works for you, I tried the cross wrapping with the triangle of line but I couldn't get that to work. Then I found a version on Youtube (Japanese guy) where you wrap the leader accross a section of tightly stretched braid and adapted that to work over my knees, with braid wrapped around both feet. Works well and most importantly I trust it!
Or ask the guys at Yeehaa if they will do one for you, they did one for me that lasted ages and only needed re-doing when the leader got < 1 m.
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Posted By: Jonny rotten
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 11:03am
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anyone got a good link for tying an FG? ------------- Rocking the CROCS since 2011 |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 11:11am
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this is the best one Johnny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4GCH6i5L2I&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4GCH6i5L2I&feature=related -------------  www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: hogdog
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 11:36am
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I use a modified albright which works well too and easy to tie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4y2FPIlLNQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4y2FPIlLNQ
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Posted By: kingieslayer
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 4:52pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xZjRw_BhXU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xZjRw_BhXU ------------- woman love me fish fear me! |
Posted By: riga
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 5:56pm
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I have huge trust in my PRs but I notice after about half a day the PR slowly becomes unravelled from casting over and over again no matter what finishing knot I use.
Never had the issue with jigging so I am putting it down to the casting.
So keen to try the FG knot, just need to get faith in my ability to tie it.
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Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 6:48pm
He makes that look way harder than it needs to be. ------------- as dead as dead is |
kingieslayer wrote:Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 6:53pm
That ones better but i think my way is easier again,might have to make a video..yeah right. I find it really easy to use my two (poking fingers) to separeate the braid and pinky to lock the wraps down for the criss cross part.Didnt watch he rest past there,watching clips of knots puts me to sleep! Should take maybe two minutes max ------------- as dead as dead is |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 7:05pm
ref the finishing knot= Dont use the finishing knot...just make sure your last two half hitches are really really tight...clip and burn tag end....I use all day and it never unravels(casting) ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 7:06pm
you must show me some time dood....maybe when you bring my book back  ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: shaneg
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 10:16pm
| Love the FG knot/ Took me couple of weekends practising and watching Youtube. Such a brillantly simple knot and so streamlined for casting... will be using it jigging as well. |
Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 10:50pm
^^Good Man  ------------- Be patient and calm – for no one can catch fish in anger. –Herbert Hoover |
Posted By: fish i
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 1:28pm
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This is the best, easiest and most effective FG version, and it has won me over. You use the tension of your reel's drag, frees your hands up and real easy. Piece of piass, if you can handle the porno elevator jazz. I use it on my softbait and stray lining gear as well. Lil' PRs are sweet as and work nearly as good. It's just even the little ones can tend to curl slightly because of the tension of the wraps. ------------- 6th place in the inaugural Te Kauwhata Regionals paddle crab division |
Posted By: PoppinTonga
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2012 at 10:34am
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Hey fish i, that is one awesome version of the knot you found. I have been trying to tie that knot for months and my retarded hands just would not do it. That version is the best and easiest I have seen. THANKS!! Just got to try it on a fish now. ------------- Tis better to have hooked and lost than never to have hooked at all. |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2012 at 11:55am
The technique looks similar to using the EZ Knotter... Let us know how the knot holds up Kurt, at no point did I see him tighten the wraps by pulling on it  The EZ Knotter would be good if your hands are letting you down. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWpWiCSSgek - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWpWiCSSgek
------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: PoppinTonga
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2012 at 1:52pm
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I gloved up and pulled as hard as I could after the finish and it did not slip at all. The rod keeps tension on the line like a bow. All that is needed is to push the knot together as you go to keep it from spreading out I had a look at the video you posted Sam, and it is the same process. The tool makes the bow instead of the rod. I am looking forward to tying this knot on the boat. I think it will be easy with the rod in a rod holder. ------------- Tis better to have hooked and lost than never to have hooked at all. |
Posted By: YeeHaa
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2012 at 10:20pm
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Just one important tip for FG knot. FG knot will work on soft mono leader much better than Carbon leader. The most popular leader materials are used on the market for FG knot. Varivas Shock leader  Prosele casting leader (YEEHAA fishing is the NZ Agent of Prosele products, the new products will be here soon) They are truly amazing leaders material super super thin and very soft & strong.  Fisherman shock leader  -------------   WWW.YEEHAA.CO.NZ (09)5705058 30 Jellicoe Road Panmure |
Posted By: Red Hunter
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2012 at 11:02pm
| I have been using the FG knot for a number of years now , mostly out of a small boat , as good as the video of the knot with the reel is , I think if you learn it with your fingers as in wrapping the braid around you little finger and making the triangle with you other 2 fingers it is a lot easyer when you are rolling around , as for leader as Yeehaa has pointed out they are top brands , but there are a number of cheaper ones that work just as good , Dam for one for lighter line class to PE 5 , Jenki is another that I have used and still do to PE 8 , I have used Synder as a short leader , not as good but still works with out a problem , its all a price point , |
Posted By: Falco
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2012 at 8:10am
Thats is how do it also Red,really easy and no fuss..and yes great points re supple leader it does make a huge difference - the knot bites really well on it.Also casts better.
That FISHERMAN Stealth,and VARIVAS is awsome,particulalry when your mates buy it and you just "borrow" sections.. ------------- as dead as dead is |
Posted By: fish i
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2012 at 9:07am
When you pull the leader back straight after doing the figure 8 the criss-cross pulls down tight and snug against the previous one biting into the leader so there is no need to "pull on it". Give it a go, you will be surprised how easy and effective it is, and a whole lot less fiddly. ------------- 6th place in the inaugural Te Kauwhata Regionals paddle crab division |
Posted By: marx
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2012 at 10:39am
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That FG knot using the reel is mint! Every wrap is pulled up tight and you can easily do nice uniform wraps, takes minimal concentration too! Haven't tied it on the boat yet but can't see it being anymore difficult. ------------- Science for the mind and Art for the soul. |
Posted By: Legacy
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2012 at 11:28am
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Looking forward to trying that Prosele leader .
Agree that tying the FG with the reel is really easy to get good tension in the knot - just tried it out with a PE3 line . Will try it with the heavier lines tonight .
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Posted By: Aaron32987
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2012 at 1:16pm
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Not sure why people think the Variavas leader is expensive - it is cheaper than black magic at $40 or so for 50m compared to $30 for 30 m... That way of tying the FG knot with the reel is similar to the way I've been doing it, with the line held tensioned over my knees. But the way he wraps it is different, will have to try that as well, thanks for posting the link Fish i. |
Posted By: xsspeed
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2012 at 1:41pm
| Hah! I finally manage to learn the triangle between the fingers way, and then clicked on this, to see that vid fish i. Damn, looks so much easier - will give it a go |
Posted By: Fussballer
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2012 at 10:09pm
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Here is another simple method for tying the criss-cross weave in your FG. I find this way the easiest. I dont follow this guys finishing, just opting for half hitches as per Falcos first video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N0mCf0AIAA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N0mCf0AIAA |
Posted By: Fish Pimp
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 12:19pm
Yep' Sebile for me use it for casting and jigging no prob's  . Fisherman and Vari' are my pick for leader material but will be trying the Prosele also when it arrives. With heavier casting Baits it doesn't matter so much but these softer leader materials work the smaller Stick baits ( Runboh etc) much better and dont kink or retain as much spool memory when stored for awhile IMO.
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Posted By: petethemeat
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 1:46pm
| Tony - that Prosele casting leader in stock yet? |
Posted By: ReelAppealLures
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2012 at 9:46pm
I had one let go that's all, mid cast the leader popped out leaving me with a loop which was the criss-cross section and the series of hitches in tact. I haven't tried it again but I will as I would have done something wrong. Do you lock the leader on the final criss-cross by going under the braid (instead of over) and back through the loop, pull and the leader locks? I use my fingers to tie the FG, I have 100% faith in my hand tied knot. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reel-Appeal-Lures/300309486704362 |
Posted By: makka
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2012 at 10:36pm
| I tie the FG in everything from 50lb down to 4lb trout spinning gear and love it, never had a failure at the knot |
Posted By: Cbro
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 10:33am
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Tried both knots yesterday, one by hand and other using the reels drag. Found both hold well but when doing the reel way it seems to twist the leader a bit an the knot finishes up a bit twisted while the hand way is straight as. Found both ways easy an about the same amount of time to tie, rod way might be easier in rough conditions so im glad I practised both. What knot do you guys use to attach your lure?
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 12:10pm
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Cbro.. i use the uni. KISS theory
------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: NICK3617
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 11:21pm
| I FG all my gear except for jigging wen PR comes into its own,also when melting the trace into a mushroom don't put the flame directly onto it or let it go black and crunchy as when u apply pressure the mushroom will pop off if flame was In direct contact,u want to use bottom of flame the blue part to melt it,keep it close enough to melt but not to burn,so for casting the FG sure is easier on the guides and more streamlined,were as the PR is a bit chunkier and slowly but surely will pop one of those Fujii eyes out! |
Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2012 at 11:48pm
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Ive been using a short Pr knot for yonks and my guides are fine....as long as your guides are big enough.Thats the issue....I find a short PR quick to tie and never comes undone.....I use a 5 metre leader like Aaron and as long as you hang your lure down 1 to 1.5 metre from your rod tip,you dont even hear it go through the guides(right size guides).I use a little maverick bond when tied before i go out and i have 100% faith in my 1 inch PR knot. I dont use a PR to jig with....prefer a short bimini double and wind on leader that i make myself.I can organise this in half the time it takes to tie a normal length PR knot.Only ever lost one jig to a couda and that was recently. My mate showed me the FG knot the other day and his fingers went blue ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: useless
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2012 at 10:18am
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i watched the guy in a shop try and do a fg knot, he made it look so complicated it hurt....i then found this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xZjRw_BhXU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xZjRw_BhXU
super simple to follow.
why do i use it?
because it id the only knot i have learnt so far.
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Posted By: accurate
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2012 at 7:19pm
| Hi, I have got this fg knot pretty much worked out, I have been trying the Nomad type way where you apply tension to it after completing 2 half hitches after the wraps and then finish the knot with remaining hitches, I can put a heap of weight on it and it holds up great but I have noticed that once you have really stretched it out it becomes a little wrinkled up where the last wraps meet the hitches and bite in. It doesn't seem to affect the knot but is this normal ?? |
Posted By: Tipper
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2012 at 5:03am
really works! superb |