Last Summer for Great Whites

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What follows is a government press release from earlier today. The 'tailgunner' Carter is again sticking his nose in.
 
 
Full Protection For Great White Sharks

Press Release by New Zealand Government at 11:11 am, 30 Nov 2006

White pointer sharks will now be fully protected within the 200 nautical
miles of New Zealand and from fishing by New Zealand-flagged boats,
further a field, in a change in legislation announced by the Ministers
of Conservation and Fisheries today.

The species, also known as the great white shark, will be protected
under The Wildlife Act meaning it will be illegal to hunt, kill or harm
a white pointer shark within New Zealand's Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ
- 200 nautical mile limit around NZ). It will also be illegal in New
Zealand to possess or trade in any part of a white pointer shark.

New Zealand is a signatory to the Convention on the Conservation of
Migratory Species of Wild Animals and has an obligation to prohibit the
taking of white pointer sharks.

Conservation Minister Chris Carter said despite the white pointer's
reputation as an apex predator, it was vulnerable to fishing and
becoming rarer throughout the world.

"These majestic animals occur naturally in low numbers and, without
protection, could be pushed to the brink of extinction. The Wildlife Act
provides a strong deterrent against targeting great whites with a
$250,000 fine and up to six months imprisonment as a maximum penalty."

The species will be further protected on the high seas (outside the EEZ)
under the Fisheries Act where New Zealand-flagged boats will be
prohibited from taking white pointer sharks while fishing outside the
EEZ.

However, provisions will be created to permit the continued use of shark
nets to protect swimmers around beaches in Dunedin, and fishers
accidentally catching and killing white pointers will not be prosecuted
provided they register the death with authorities.

Fisheries Minister Jim Anderton said the white pointer shark was not
known to be targeted by commercial fishing but was occasionally taken,
unintentionally, as by-catch.

Mr Anderton also said they were sometimes targeted by recreational
fishers and there was some demand for jaws and teeth as fishing
trophies. Others were unintentionally caught in set nets.

"No one wants to see an animal hunted to extinction for the sake of a
jaw or a few teeth or to be placed under pressure by accidental catch.
Under these new regulations no fisher will be able to profit from taking
a white pointer, and any fisher inadvertently catching one will have to
return it to the sea, intact, and alive, if possible," Mr Anderton said.

The protection comes into effect in April 2007.
 
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great stuff nice to see this happening and when a kiddy is taken from some beach the polititian who wants his photos in the new porno mag bent house will get a slavering.
 
there are 2 currently around the toots area xmas is not far away for the bathers oh goody.
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Great stuff - about time.
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Does that mean there will be a last gasp focus on catching them before April. We may see more targeted and caught this summer than in the past 10 years.

Bound to be a few guys out there who want to take their opportunity before its to late.
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the silly thing is that do they really need protecting? in this day and age there are v few people that target them commercially or recreationally... while I agree with the theory and the principle of looking after these great creatures surely the pols would have been better to spend the same money and time trying to protect or look after something like bluefin, yellowfin, marlin etc etc, i.e something that is under commercial pressure? however I suppose it was an "easy win" for Carter as there are few who would disagree and lobby against it, Im not being churlish but I am a tad cynical about the whole thing....

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I think there are fewer Great whites around then the others you listed.
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Originally posted by Mark Edwards Mark Edwards wrote:

the silly thing is that do they really need protecting? in this day and age there are v few people that target them commercially or recreationally... while I agree with the theory and the principle of looking after these great creatures surely the pols would have been better to spend the same money and time trying to protect or look after something like bluefin, yellowfin, marlin etc etc, i.e something that is under commercial pressure? however I suppose it was an "easy win" for Carter as there are few who would disagree and lobby against it, Im not being churlish and think it is a great initiatve but I am a tad cynical about the whole thing....



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Originally posted by Militaris Militaris wrote:

I think there are fewer Great whites around then the others you listed.
I totally agree, and agree with ensuring these fish arent hunted out of existence, but I think there is reason to be cynical as really people generally dont target great whites, the only commercial value for a dead great white is jaws and teeth, according to the release, and I doubt that will see them hunted to extinction... however for species where there is commercial value I think the taxpayer money should be spent looking after and researching those stocks, rather than some token gesture to protect great whites, dont get me wrong, I am a conservationist and think we should look after everything in the sea, my beef is with misallocation of funds and time thats all....
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Even though I'm a treehugger I had to laugh at that fulla from twigs and tweeters inferring that shark fishing comps were causing gw decline as there were prizes for the weightiest fish. Has a white ever been weighed in at a fishing comp? 
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Thats a good question Long John, has one ever been weighed at a comp ever Question
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I believe that there have only been around 6-7 weighed under NZBGFC in the last 20 years. Some threat.
Just the 'tailgunner' doing another Whitianga.
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One was caught this year at the Counties comp, and Smudge and grounded have been fattening one up out by the trypod, in the manukau.
 
last thing I want to too is tangle with a white in my boat
 
 
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Yes LJ I have seen one weighed and know of four T&R in the Manukau last 4 years.

Just remember if you do want to make your mark before April that the limit is 20 per angler per day.
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20 a day! Caramba, the best I have ever been able to do is 16, dammit, I gotta try harder.
However, in my defence, I have been very sporting about it, and always only using a 4lb tippet on my 4wgt fly rod, and I tease them up and bait them with a size 16 Royal Wulfe.... although, just quietly, a Red Tip Governer is juat as good....
 
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best i get out to the tri pod and burly up Evil%20Smile
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hey guys its only illegal to kill one intentionally,
 dose not say you cant Tand R them and hey if you do get one and it dies well boo hoo these things happen it was said a couple back they cant read and we dont go out of our way like they do in Aussie and South Africa to get em,
bowel tourist is looking for support there is an election coming and this closet commando is feeling for the tree hugger amoungst us to come on board and go ohhhhhh are,
have been fishing for over 40 years never seen 1 never want to and i certainly wont vote for a homo pathing the hemorid highway
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couldnt have said it better myself....very well put, Carter is a moron and thats all there is to it...
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can I just ask,  did any of you guys vote them in??  if so, then you cant complain....
 
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heard one bit some kid in Aussie today, couple of Kiwis went and saved him......
 
wish one would bite Helen or Carter....... but then i guess they wouldnt go that deep......
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