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I would like to propose a new section for the walk a bout forum-- Distance casting, this is a growing sport in NZ/Australia, there are alot of up and coming and present distance casters on this forum that I;m sure would be happy to help and pass on there information to help others, this would be a good way of finding out about technical side of things ,products and the club comps and open days around NZ. There is alot more to distance casting then just throwing a sinker on the line and going for it. 
So if you guys are interested in this please comment on this and I'm sure the mods may take note.
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My castings improve over the last 6 or so months slightly. But I wouldn't mind a few more tips etc on how to increase distance Thumbs Up
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check this dude out - I've been trying the 'off the ground' technique down at the school field , its mental
 
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The otg cast is the basis of all power casts.

Dave Mewburn has recorded casts over 250m with otg casts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9kDRKIr6jA
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Ok what do you guys rate as the top Distance casting rods on the market

Century
Zippys
Harrison
Sonik
Conoflex
Sprotex
CCP
CTS S8
222 
there a few others around from Europe which are pretty hard to get these day due to the cost, the Sportex Magnus rods are German made I have 2 on there way here at the moment for a customer in Aussie, I shall take a few pics of them as they are a different kind of rod.

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These are the main casting styles used on the field and by a few guys off the beach

The Hatteras Cast


The Pendulum Cast


The OTG (Off The Ground )Cast

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Hey Scuzzy, you're too busy with the fancy casts you forgot the overhead thump.
and as for the rods you missed out the 222.Big smile
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Will this be purely for distance? or will it be for distance with bait?
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fixed- it is a good rod, every one can do the Over Head Thump pretty standard cast, some just need to be showen how to do it correctly.

On that note there is a casting day being held this weekend at Mainfeild Race Track ,Feilding, so come along on Sunday at 9 am with your rods and reels, alot of the guys would be more than happy to help with casting,some times it only takes 15 minutes to learn the correct why to do things then practice, some guys have achieved an extra 20-40 meters
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Both- On the field we do Distance and accuracy casting, 
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I will arrange a few demonstration events around the country if people are interested, willing to help people learn to cast with and with out baits and to get max distance out of the gear you use and show a few people some of the specialist gear that is used by the top casters in NZ.


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Question Time- 

 How many people use Tapered leaders ?
 what size line - lb or kg and diameter ?
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I watched a video of the pendulum cast a few years ago and it has found its way into my surf and lure spinning casting techniques. While some of these 200m + casts with long rods over grass are super impressive it's also important to recognise other forms of distance casting. For example the guys that regularly throw over 120m with a 10ft rod, 85gram lure and a reel with a drag system that is up to the task of stopping 30Kg tunas. 

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Good idea for the forum.Would be a useful addition.
Nope dont use tapered leaders. Lose too many too snags...Wink
 
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tapered leaders are too expensive to use all the time, if they don't bust off on a snag / ray / bad cast then I find they go all curly after a few missions. I just use a good quality 40-50lb line such as Plat and attach to the main line using a slim beauty. Would be worth considering for distance casting though I suppose but they'd probably need to be shortened as they're normally about 15m long and only need to be about 6.
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I swear by Tapered leaders, If using a fixed spool  with the right knot they preform alot better, the ones I use are UK casting std length 13 meters so no need to cut them down. on a free spool I also use them and again I find they are very good on the guilds as you dont get the knot catching on the smaller guilds, some guys use a standard shock leader that wraps around the spool 2-3 times as well. Personal I think we need to take on the UK Casting Stds in NZ so it keeps all people on the same playing field - I will post more info on this
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Yep, use tapered on my 2, 4 & 6kg lines. 8kg and up don't bother as there "should" be enough stretch in the line to handle a cast I reckon. 120m with 6kg (.33 I think) 5oz at the field. Haven't measured with the 2 or 4 kg line yet. Probably drop about 20m with bait I reckon
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check out this short vid of Danny Moeskops doing a pendulum cast. He has a very distinctive stance when he starts his cast where he is almost bowing. I'm guessing this is not text book style. Must work though as he is the current world record holder with a distance of 280+ m.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvmW7LKRrO4

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