Distance Casting
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Category: Saltwater Fishing
Forum Name: Competition Casting
Forum Description: Distance and accuracy casting comp discussion here
URL: https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76605
Printed Date: 27 Jan 2026 at 11:06pm
Topic: Distance Casting
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Subject: Distance Casting
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2012 at 2:51pm
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I would like to propose a new section for the walk a bout forum-- Distance casting, this is a growing sport in NZ/Australia, there are alot of up and coming and present distance casters on this forum that I;m sure would be happy to help and pass on there information to help others, this would be a good way of finding out about technical side of things ,products and the club comps and open days around NZ. There is alot more to distance casting then just throwing a sinker on the line and going for it. So if you guys are interested in this please comment on this and I'm sure the mods may take note.
------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
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Posted By: xtreamz
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2012 at 2:56pm
My castings improve over the last 6 or so months slightly. But I wouldn't mind a few more tips etc on how to increase distance 
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Posted By: fushandchips
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2012 at 6:19pm
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check this dude out - I've been trying the 'off the ground' technique down at the school field , its mental
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F3Au5xuF1U - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F3Au5xuF1U
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Posted By: Kiwicaster
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2012 at 6:54pm
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The otg cast is the basis of all power casts. Dave Mewburn has recorded casts over 250m with otg casts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9kDRKIr6jA |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2012 at 11:03pm
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Ok what do you guys rate as the top Distance casting rods on the market Century Zippys Harrison Sonik Conoflex Sprotex CCP CTS S8
222 there a few others around from Europe which are pretty hard to get these day due to the cost, the Sportex Magnus rods are German made I have 2 on there way here at the moment for a customer in Aussie, I shall take a few pics of them as they are a different kind of rod. ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2012 at 11:09pm
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These are the main casting styles used on the field and by a few guys off the beach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiySRyNlljc&feature=player_embedded - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiySRyNlljc&feature=player_embedded
The Pendulum Cast http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EExRvD37zWs&feature=player_embedded - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EExRvD37zWs&feature=player_embedded
The OTG (Off The Ground )Cast http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqiJRry0goM&feature=player_embedded - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqiJRry0goM&feature=player_embedded
------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2012 at 11:19pm
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Hey Scuzzy, you're too busy with the fancy casts you forgot the overhead thump. and as for the rods you missed out the 222.  ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2012 at 11:29pm
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Will this be purely for distance? or will it be for distance with bait? ------------- I do not lie about fishing, I willingly participate in a campaign of misinformation. |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2012 at 11:29pm
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fixed- it is a good rod, every one can do the Over Head Thump pretty standard cast, some just need to be showen how to do it correctly. On that note there is a casting day being held this weekend at Mainfeild Race Track ,Feilding, so come along on Sunday at 9 am with your rods and reels, alot of the guys would be more than happy to help with casting,some times it only takes 15 minutes to learn the correct why to do things then practice, some guys have achieved an extra 20-40 meters ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 09 Mar 2012 at 11:31pm
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Both- On the field we do Distance and accuracy casting, ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2012 at 8:58pm
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I will arrange a few demonstration events around the country if people are interested, willing to help people learn to cast with and with out baits and to get max distance out of the gear you use and show a few people some of the specialist gear that is used by the top casters in NZ. ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2012 at 9:00pm
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Question Time- How many people use Tapered leaders ? what size line - lb or kg and diameter ? ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: kiwinoz
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 1:01am
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I watched a video of the pendulum cast a few years ago and it has found its way into my surf and lure spinning casting techniques. While some of these 200m + casts with long rods over grass are super impressive it's also important to recognise other forms of distance casting. For example the guys that regularly throw over 120m with a 10ft rod, 85gram lure and a reel with a drag system that is up to the task of stopping 30Kg tunas. Love the sport, always working on the technique! ------------- one more parking ticket and i'm going to snap! |
Posted By: jaypeegee
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 10:26am
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Good idea for the forum.Would be a useful addition.
Nope dont use tapered leaders. Lose too many too snags...
 Waiting for the unhealing hole on the side of my finger to **** off. Keeps getting burned out by line (Too lazy to use the cannon)
Also: The Sonik dealt to a good sized pannie last night.  ------------- "You don't have to be smart to laugh at a fart, but you have to be stupid not to." |
Posted By: welshbaz
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2012 at 4:44pm
| tapered leaders are too expensive to use all the time, if they don't bust off on a snag / ray / bad cast then I find they go all curly after a few missions. I just use a good quality 40-50lb line such as Plat and attach to the main line using a slim beauty. Would be worth considering for distance casting though I suppose but they'd probably need to be shortened as they're normally about 15m long and only need to be about 6. |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2012 at 7:12pm
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I swear by Tapered leaders, If using a fixed spool with the right knot they preform alot better, the ones I use are UK casting std length 13 meters so no need to cut them down. on a free spool I also use them and again I find they are very good on the guilds as you dont get the knot catching on the smaller guilds, some guys use a standard shock leader that wraps around the spool 2-3 times as well. Personal I think we need to take on the UK Casting Stds in NZ so it keeps all people on the same playing field - I will post more info on this
------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: Seth
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2012 at 11:32pm
| Yep, use tapered on my 2, 4 & 6kg lines. 8kg and up don't bother as there "should" be enough stretch in the line to handle a cast I reckon. 120m with 6kg (.33 I think) 5oz at the field. Haven't measured with the 2 or 4 kg line yet. Probably drop about 20m with bait I reckon |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 4:53pm
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Casting plugs from the shore http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAeyRQOE9so&feature=g-vrec&context=G2152029RVAAAAAAAAAQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAeyRQOE9so&feature=g-vrec&context=G2152029RVAAAAAAAAAQ
------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 5:01pm
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For the SWF guys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAamuCaUZOQ&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAamuCaUZOQ&feature=related
------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: welshbaz
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 7:52am
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check out this short vid of Danny Moeskops doing a pendulum cast. He has a very distinctive stance when he starts his cast where he is almost bowing. I'm guessing this is not text book style. Must work though as he is the current world record holder with a distance of 280+ m. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvmW7LKRrO4 |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 4:09pm
------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
scuzzymoto wrote:Posted By: Big Jim
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 6:30pm
| Tapered all the time but trim it down for fishing and 6kg .30mm for the beach and 10-15kg for the rocks |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2012 at 2:04pm
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I have being trying out some new Tapered leaders, 10 on a spool which is good, so far they have being working well.They come in a variety of sizes as well, clear(flouro) - .20-.57, .23-.57, .26-.57, .31-.57, and hi viz red(5 on s spool) .18-.45, .20-.57, .23-.57, .26-.57 Big Jim why do you cut them down???, is it because of the diameter of the line or is it because of the reel or your style of fishing? ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: Skipjack
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2012 at 3:08pm
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CTS S8 Pendulum blanks could be added to your list, Tapered leaders on my fixed spool loaded with braid 15lb at the thin end keeps the knot small. Just use 50 / 60lb mono or 80lb braid on my over heads.
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Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2012 at 3:19pm
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forgot about those blanks, being made in NZ as well a quailty product ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: mouthu
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2012 at 4:28pm
I learn't some of my distance casting fromJames, and I think he cut's his down so he only has three or four winds around the spool and enough line out the end for a decent cast. The whole leader is too long depending on the rod. ------------- Yes it was me, I screwed it up for everyone. |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2012 at 8:22pm
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NEWS!!!!!- Kiwicaster is now no 1 in NZ for distance casting,He won the NZ Nationals with a cast of 200.30 meters casting into a head wind, so congrats to him he deserves it ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: welshbaz
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 8:28am
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big ups Neil. Well done...Sounds like conditions were tricky for the winning cast to be a whisker over 200m |
Posted By: Grunta
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 8:47am
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Can make a sub-forum in this forum of distance casting or competition casting if that's what you're looking for?? Was talking to Steve Reed this morning on the LiveSport fishing show and he mentioned that extremely good effort from Neil. ------------- Online... |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 9:23am
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That would be great Grunta, especially now New Zealand has taken the UKSF International Casting standards this will take the sport to a new level as we can now compete with the big guns around the world........ ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: Grunta
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 9:38am
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All done.....
------------- Online... |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2012 at 11:00pm
Well after today Kiwicaster also won the accuracy side of the comp so now is the NZ overall champ, well Neil you deserve this with all the hard work you have put into the sport, one happy man http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa303/icemansenior/?action=view¤t=P1020063.mp4 - http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa303/icemansenior/?action=view¤t=P1020063.mp4
------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: Kiwicaster
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 4:04pm
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Thanks guys. The nats was a faultless performance from the feilding club |
Posted By: Kiwicaster
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 4:10pm
Casting into the wind with a freespool is a bit tricky esp when the reels are set up very very twitchy . |
Posted By: Hagar
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 5:48pm
Hi Guys, First post on here so a bit of a test at the same time.......so apologies if it all goes pear shaped! Also I better just say hullo one and all, right, pleasantries over.... My two favorites are Century and Zziplex, both have been around a while and both always prove themselves well out on the field. The technology Century has available and materials, will always keep them up there with the best. SONIK are proving themselves in the UK market, especially with their carp rod range and going by the casting capabilities of the carp rods I am interested in how the Surfcasting range will do. I am not sure as of yet, that they will prove winners as out and out Competition casting rods, but I hope they do. The set-up I am putting together for my surfcasting in NZ is, Shimano Ultegras (Spinning reels) Sonik 14' Continentals 20lb fireline 65lb whiplash leader, through to mono hook lengths Looking forward to hitting the beaches soon and possibly entering a few casting comps along the way....... ------------- Fishing here, there and everywhere....... |
Posted By: Kiwicaster
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 5:59pm
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Zziplex Century and Conoflex have dominated the the casting circuits for a long time however there are also others that can be cast a long way. Soniks have been used by a few in the uk to record casts up to 260m . Anyfish anywhere and Anyfeild anywhere The new anyfeild blanks have been going very well with 270m casts posted. These rods may been seen in NZ soon is the rumour I am hearing . Tyrex Rare and out of production now the French casters love these rods |
Posted By: Kiwicaster
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 6:02pm
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Welcome Hager That set up will blast baits out a long way as well as being a very nice fish fighting combo. |
Posted By: Hagar
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 6:07pm
Thats the plan.........
Nice cast by the way Kiwicaster
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Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 7:10pm
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Welcome aboard Hager(Mike) Actiontackle ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: Hagar
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 7:18pm
Cheers Mark.....
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Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 4:11pm
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post up-dated with pic and vid link ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 10:04am
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Links to the NZACA CASTING results for 2012 http://www.nzaca.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/CastingResults-divisions.txt - http://www.nzaca.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/CastingResults-divisions.txt
http://www.nzaca.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/CastingResults-senior-open.txt - http://www.nzaca.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/CastingResults-senior-open.txt
------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: aeonsien
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2012 at 2:01pm
Do you have anything coming up in the Wellington area? I'd be keen to do some hands on learning, pretty sure there are others who'd be keen.
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Posted By: Kiwicaster
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2012 at 6:58pm
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Dont know when Scuzzys planing shows but I am happy to show you a few things. |
Posted By: aeonsien
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2012 at 7:07pm
| That would be awesome kiwicaster, how works best for you (and do you do groups or single servings best) |
Posted By: Kiwicaster
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2012 at 2:06pm
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Individuals is fine . I am out of action for a while due to taking a big hunk out a finger but should be ready to go by middle of the week. Will pm you then to sort out a time. |
Posted By: Kiwicaster
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2012 at 9:27pm
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Pm was sent read and no response ..... Spent a few hrs casting today anyways . Quite happy with getting back into the 230's  |
Posted By: aeonsien
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2012 at 10:31am
| Hey, sorry about that, didn't mean to stand you up. I read your PM on Tuesday night and then got distracted trying to organise time off (for good behaviour?) I am still keen. |
Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2012 at 12:47pm
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well done kiwicaster, 230 meters may help you catch some fish ------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: Jet_ski_fisher
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2012 at 1:01pm
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Chucking a sinker around ain't much fun, unless there are fish to be caught :) Do you guy's use fake bait's? streamlined fake bait's? to see who can cast the best? cause once you add baits to lines, it changes the whole distance casting.. be interested in seeing how you guy's set up for fake real fishing sessions and who has the best cast that way...:) ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">  MH... Catch measure release...<*))))< |
Posted By: Kiwicaster
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2012 at 2:57pm
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Its a challenge to see just how far you can push yourself and your gear. Last time I tried with a bait attached and a full blown cast I measured it at 185. something meters but thats a year or two ago .
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Posted By: Jet_ski_fisher
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2012 at 3:06pm
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I be lucky to hit 100 when the wind blows, but the snapper love the onshore winds for some reason stirs up the bottom i think..but at 15knots onshore winds i draw the line :) ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> MH... Catch measure release...<*))))< |
Posted By: Kiwicaster
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2012 at 3:21pm
| Thats fine Aeonsien will be in contact when it stops raining . |
Posted By: aeonsien
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2012 at 2:30pm
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I cracked out Google Maps over Petone the other day and measured out a 230m distance against the Petone Wharf, then went for a walk down there to see how far it is in comparison to how far I think I can cast... It doesn't look that far from above but looking at it up close... sheesh! I can only imagine casting that far and hearing a 'snap' as either my rod, or one of my tendons, broke :)
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Posted By: Hagar
Date Posted: 01 May 2012 at 2:08pm
New 14' SONIK Continentals and Shimano Super Ultegras traps set and ready to pounce......
  Had a bit of a throw around with them and I was getting quite good distances until my finger protector gave up........
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Posted By: scuzzymoto
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2012 at 11:06pm
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Tried to load this link onto the this site but gave up so here is the link on F/book for the Akios Tourny Reels https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=393069244073035&set=a.219273684785926.57152.219001951479766&type=1&theater - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=393069244073035&set=a.219273684785926.57152.219001951479766&type=1&theater
------------- "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” Mark Twain |
Posted By: o Neill
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2012 at 7:04am
| I'm well out of practice on the grass but am thinking about a zziplex Bullet to get back into it with. |