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    Posted: 06 Jun 2011 at 4:21pm
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I am fairly new to fishing poppers, I am solely based on the bricks.
Setup is VS80a on van staal 8ft rod, 65lb suffix w 120lb mono leader.
Today I was casting a williamson 120g popper, I cast firmly without too much trajectory but suffered multiple wind knots, I have had this with finer braids in the past but just looking for some pointers from you all if you would be so kind??


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Hi used to have this problem too. This worked for me - changed to dedicated casting braid (most top brands have a range of casting braids) and do not overfill the spool (take off about 35-50m from where you would fill for jigging).
 
Reel lip shape and rod guide size can make a difference I suspect but the above worked for me
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bulky joining knots cause wind knots as well,they slow the line down going thru guides but its still comming off the spool fastand lops around guides
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DVS, try the "search" function at the top of the page...Quite handy for this kind of stuff Wink

Here's a link to a thread when searching "wind knots"...

I busted off today whilst testing proto diving pencils, I would suspect it was from loose wraps on the spool as the lure beforehand kept skipping out...Thumbs Down 
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there are a few reasons that you may be getting wind knots, the stripper guide on the rod could be placed wrong, over full spool on your reel and slack line on the spool could cause wind knots, using a FG knot to attach the leader could help reduce wind knots, using a quality casting braid like Jerry Brown or Varivas will help, wind knots happen to all I have seen one of the best GT fisherman in the world cast,wind knot,snapped line and by by to a borrowed lure.
 
The way I set up for casting is 100 lb Jerry Brown hollow core, 150 lb leader using a FG knot
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Originally posted by ReelAppealLures ReelAppealLures wrote:


I busted off today whilst testing proto diving pencils, I would suspect it was from loose wraps on the spool as the lure beforehand kept skipping out...Thumbs Down 
 
My heart rate climbed a wee bit...Embarrassed  
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Some nice supple leader will make a difference.
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Originally posted by falco falco wrote:

Originally posted by ReelAppealLures ReelAppealLures wrote:


I busted off today whilst testing proto diving pencils, I would suspect it was from loose wraps on the spool as the lure beforehand kept skipping out...Thumbs Down 
 
My heart rate climbed a wee bit...Embarrassed  

Nah that one would have read... I busted off today and got wet retrieving ....Wink
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Thanks for the info guys! should have done a search first Confused
 
Thanks Fish i, using the BM 120lb supple dont want to go too much lighter??
 
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I dont think it helped that my mate at the fishing shop put on quite a long PR knot that seemed to clunk from the guides, probably best for jigging not casting?? I have since cut it and rejoined with a nice 50 turn bimini to FG knot. Hope this helps for starters, dont really want to pull off the spool of new braid.
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yep I shorted my leader to 1.5 - 2m and got ride of the issue. may not be convensional but solve the problem
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Originally posted by DVS DVS wrote:

I dont think it helped that my mate at the fishing shop put on quite a long PR knot that seemed to clunk from the guides, probably best for jigging not casting?? I have since cut it and rejoined with a nice 50 turn bimini to FG knot. Hope this helps for starters, dont really want to pull off the spool of new braid.
If you ball the leader at the PR knot(not needed)...it can get caught on the guide too  but a short PR casts well i reckon.Similar length to the FG  25 to 30 mm...
make sure you put your braid on your spool under good tension and allow for it compacting a bit overnight...I have noticed this every time i fill a reel...I use another reel to spool under good drag..If its put on too lose it will all end inCry
p.s whats with the bimini? FG goes straight to your leader.
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Thanks LBD.
 
I had the reel spooled by machine to avoid any dramas, most places I go do it for free.
 
I use a bimini twist when using shorter leaders to add additional abrasion resistance, especially with braid. I may be wrong.........thoughts??
 
 
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Originally posted by DVS DVS wrote:

Thanks for the info guys! should have done a search first Confused
 
Thanks Fish i, using the BM 120lb supple dont want to go too much lighter??
 

 Were using 80lb 
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Originally posted by DVS DVS wrote:

Thanks LBD.
 
I had the reel spooled by machine to avoid any dramas, most places I go do it for free.
 
I use a bimini twist when using shorter leaders to add additional abrasion resistance, especially with braid. I may be wrong.........thoughts??
 
 
I don't think your bimini twist double will help at all if it contacts the rocks under tension, it will just be two strands sliced through instantly. Found this out the hard way using 80 lb braid for big snapper up north, even with 3-4m heavy leader the main line parted the moment it touched the rocks on the first run. 15 kg nylon landed me 3 good fish after that.
 
You might like to look at the varivas mono shock leader also, 130 lb = same diam. as 100 lb flouro (0.98 mm) and nice and supple for casting. I use 5 m tied with FG knot to the 80 lb braid and this casts very well. Also it is cheaper than the BM leaders ($40 / 50m comp. $30 / 30m)
 
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Cheers Aaron, I will look into varivas mono. Point noted re bimini, thinking now I see your point. It was advice I took from another fisho. Thankfully I have not had a bustoff using this method.
 
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Originally posted by DVS DVS wrote:

Cheers Aaron, I will look into varivas mono. Point noted re bimini, thinking now I see your point. It was advice I took from another fisho. Thankfully I have not had a bustoff using this method.
 
The bimini is a good knot for jigging(casting not an issue)...I do a 1 meter bimini and a wind on leader...The bimini spreads the load down each strand and the loop to loop connection is very strong...Ive never had a bimini fail in mono or braid.Its my prefered rig in fact.It is not good for casting though...so much resistance...the knot,the dacron loop....Its also easy to undo and put another wind on if you wish.
The varivas shock leader is used by many as already said and is very good value for money.....suggest you get that and use either a short PR or the FG knot...i use the varivas avani gt and its good stuff but not cheap.
As a rough guide...double your weight of mainline(braid) for the correct poundage of leader...eg pe6 is roughly 60 pound...double that and you get your 120 pound leader.Most people put 2 or 3 wraps around their spool and up through rod and about a metre/metre and a half  down to the stick bait...I have used 6 metres and its been good but each to his own.Wink
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pe6 is NOT 60lb lbd it is approx 80lbWink
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Originally posted by kaveman kaveman wrote:

pe6 is NOT 60lb lbd it is approx 80lbWink
LOL It varies between different braids bro and is a rough guide,not a precise statment....eg ygk jigman x8 pe8 is 80 pound/ygk Jigman x8 pe6 is actually 70 pound(if you wish to be precise about it) but varivas pe8 is 110 pound...so your above Statement is not set in stoneWink
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