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so when they talk about stick baits are they not poppers? 
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NUP more like a bib-less rapala if that makes sense.
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arrrr ok yip I know what you mean then, cheers for that, mmmm marlin on a stick bait now theres a thoughtLOL
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yip been done in other parts of the world, well do able here
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recon so mate, will look into it I recon, with some of the feeding action we had this year it would have been great fun playin silly buggers.
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Originally posted by Blue Asparagus Blue Asparagus wrote:

so when they talk about stick baits are they not poppers? 
 
 
Yeah some are shaped like long poppers but with a door knob sort of cupped face and some are rounded like Bib-Less Minnows...
 
Some swim like Rapalas, some swim like poppers and pusher skirts on the surface.
 
Good thought, maybe a witchdoctor cast out on the xygoa fin-nor will make the Ulimate PopperWink
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we got a stripey on a stickbait last week in Mexico, they love them! 
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Well there ya go then! Next seasons contest will be to see who is first to get a marlin on a stickbait or popper eh. Tell you what BA, if you're gunna be chasing a lot of Marlin with a spinnig reel, and wanna look at something perhaps a little nicer than the Fin-nor (not that the Fin-nor is not nice, I just got 2 more of them myself), then have a looksee at the Accurate SR50 Twinspins.... maaaaatteeee.... what a reel!
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I shall watch with interest the guys chasing Marlin on a popper rod as that WILL HURT.
using a stickbait on a jigrod as a switch and tease option is well doable but I suspect a marlin on a longer popper rod will be another challenge all together.
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Here is a link to 360 tuna, specifically the lure building post, in which many examples of stickbaits, poppers and other lures can be found.
http://www.360tuna.com/forum/f87/carbon-kevlar-baits-11126/
 After experiencing a couple of marlin surface feeding next to the boat this year i purchased some poping gear in the realisation that catching one on a popper or stikbait is very doable. 
The lures these guys are building are very nice, I have gotten hold of a lathe and some wood turning tools in anticipation of trying to build a few myself. Painting lures as well as these guys is well beyond me, however I have spoken with JTF who as we all know is as good as these guys!!!
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Originally posted by Capt Asparagus Capt Asparagus wrote:

Well there ya go then! Next seasons contest will be to see who is first to get a marlin on a stickbait or popper eh. Tell you what BA, if you're gunna be chasing a lot of Marlin with a spinnig reel, and wanna look at something perhaps a little nicer than the Fin-nor (not that the Fin-nor is not nice, I just got 2 more of them myself), then have a looksee at the Accurate SR50 Twinspins.... maaaaatteeee.... what a reel!


that is the plan Stu, kinda like the Fin-nor infact like you am getting a couple more, solely for marlin fishing, looking at the oh so nice xzoga popper rod to try it out on a popper/sticky thingLOL going to drop in line weight though, got two popper rods now, one for over head and one for the spinner, I have to say using the spinning gear is so much more enjoyable than the big sets. bring on the noise i say.Clap
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For Marlin what hooks would you use on them?
 
Triples, doubles or singles??
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Big Owner Jobu hooks will do the job, in my book you would have to at least cast to a marlin to be a legit stickbait capture ,none of this trolling stickbaits crap.
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Just looked up those Nomad lures, looked at the price, and now after the ambulance has left and the CPR has done its job... I think I may just stick with me old cheapie ones after all. Flaming heck, $50AUD for a lure! Caramba!
Boulders would be one of the best I've seen off the 'net so far! A bit more affordable really.
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interesting stella, was seriously thinking of a cirlce on a small length of 400, will certainly be a single hook for sure. oh well a few months to wait and ponder.
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Originally posted by Blue Asparagus Blue Asparagus wrote:

interesting stella, was seriously thinking of a cirlce on a small length of 400, will certainly be a single hook for sure. oh well a few months to wait and ponder.
Mate of mine got  asmall Blue on a stick bait around 80 kilos, was targeting them. he was using singles. i spoke to him in great length about attempting it here nad his advice was to use big singles for Marlin. They also employed tease and twict to get the fish up
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Originally posted by Capt Asparagus Capt Asparagus wrote:

Just looked up those Nomad lures, looked at the price, and now after the ambulance has left and the CPR has done its job... I think I may just stick with me old cheapie ones after all. Flaming heck, $50AUD for a lure! Caramba!
Boulders would be one of the best I've seen off the 'net so far! A bit more affordable really.
You may be in for a of a shock when you see some prices for a few of the other stick baits around
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What's a stick bait made of? I assume they need to sink (compared to poppers which float).
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stick baits like many poppers are made of wood with the odd ones in metal.
its wrong to think stickbaits sink as the best of the ones I have seen working in fact float in a vertical position when resting between strokes. ie Carpenters and fishermans.
I understand you can specify them as sinking or floating and is a huge part of the hook choice you need to run to get them to work properly.
Tricky things to get right but when you do its extraordinary
Book a trip with Ginga of Extreme charters as he is the best charter guru I know for stickbaits

Capt A if you think $50 is dear go buy a carpenter stickbait where you could well be asked for 250+ that is if you can even find one to buy
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I'm loving it!  LOL
You guys have just gotten used to the price of quality jigging gear.....quality popping gear is over twice the price with decent Japanese poppers and stick baits virtually unattainable.  When they are, they'll cost between $150 to 250! 
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