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I have regular contact with a person who insists on refering to them as Schnapper. Aunty recalls the fish-shops advertising the Sch., variety & I have a fuzzy recollection of same. This morning I checked both the Oxford dictionary & Collins Guide to the sea fish of NZ .---Only Snapper! Also did a Google search & the only connection was with German surnames. Can anyone throw some light on this" most important" question? And, remember, I don't want to be proved wrong! |
When I was a kid (60's) they always seemed to be called Schnapper. I remember a book on fishes that we had dated right back to the "olden days" and that called them schnapper, mind you, Bluefin Tuna were Tunny fish in that book back then.
Scnapper Rock is the name that you see on maps and stuff ... not Snapper Rock. Nowadays not many call them schnapper, but then it is harder to spell..
I always thought that snapper was an american term, they like to be different. There are so many types of fish called snappper but I think our snapper was originally a schnapper and we just got lazier. Sort of like programme and program.
This site refers to the word schnapper or snapper...
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Good detective skills Norseman! Seems I will have to eat my words. The "person" I referred to is my little sister, & I hate bowing to her greater knowledge. Buggar! |
“Snapper” is a generic name for hundreds of snapper fish-species around the World.
For some reason, the spelling schnapper crept into the Australian and New Zealand vernacular in the 1840s era, quite likely because the local caught snapper was different to those in other waters and this colloquial variation became the way to describe the Australasian species, whose scientific name is Chrysophrys auratus - auratus referring to the reflective coppery-pink colouring. The schnapper spelling is historically permanent when used for Australasian place names, utilised on coastlines, for streets and even a suburb in Auckland.
As a word-count exercise to determine spelling-use from the 1840s, the NZ PapersPast website reveals word-use scores:- Snapper 4671 to 11940 Schnapper in articles, and, Snapper 1804 to 19051 Schnapper in advertising - so in the public arena the schnapper spelling is an established and popular preference, notably by 10 times within commerce, NZ fishmongers advertising having a clear preference to using schnapper in their windows, alongside fillets of stingaree in older times.
Even scientists at MAF referred to schnapper at times, as when tagging fish at sea for research purposes in the 1980s, and some newspaper editions in NZ continue today to utilise schnapper.
It is suggested in circles, that schnapper should be used more often as it is a local aberration that should be embraced to describe this Southern Ocean fish, with the purists and prescriptivists left to argue bitterly in a corner of some fisherman's bar.
Can one conclude then that snapper is the lazy way to spell schnapper?
Retiree wrote:And now Lieutenant Cook - 1769 - chucking the word 'bream' around willy-nilly |
Pcj wrote:Brim/bream more of a aussie term |
Mc Tool wrote:Schnapper sounds German-ish , not that I have a problem with that at all , just that I never thought of Snapper as German , Schnapps yes . And anyhow I wasnt around in the 40's to ever have called them schnapper. As for tamure yeah why not ,sounds nice but me personally being +60 are finding more "new" names for things make listening to conversation frustrating because, just supposing I hear it properly in the 1st place, I have to translate ( not always quickly ) so I can get the gist of what or who is being discussed , specially watching the news . I would rather see Blue cod be identified by its Maori name because its exclusive to NZ Ha kinda reminds me of changing to metric or decimal currency .....suddenly just about every aspect of daily life required a little deciphering and calculating 😁 |
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