The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums : Schnapper or Snapper? https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ Wed, 27 May 2026 15:12:34 +0000 Fri, 16 May 2025 09:50:42 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.01 360 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=4430 <![CDATA[The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[Schnapper or Snapper? : And I went to look up the Maori...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843316&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843316 Author: Phantom Menace
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Posted: 16 May 2025 at 9:50am

And I went to look up the Maori name for butterfish:

mararī  

1. (noun) greenbone butterfish, Odax pullus - an endemic reef-dwelling fish with an elongated, cylindrical body. Fins large, especially the dorsal and anal fins. Adult fish are bright blue with indistinct, broken, paler tan line mid-laterally. Found at depths shallower than 20 m around the coast.

 Synonyms: marare, matohe, tarao, kōeaea, rarī]]> Fri, 16 May 2025 09:50:42 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843316&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843316 <![CDATA[Schnapper or Snapper? : smudge wrote:McTool. I had...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843315&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843315 Author: Phantom Menace
Subject: 4430
Posted: 16 May 2025 at 9:48am

Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

McTool. I had to look up blue cod to see what it's is known as in maori language. I had no idea. Here's what Wikipedia had to say: rāwaru, pākirikiri and patutuki

All i know they are great eating but those ones down south are a much better table fish than the very few I have caught up here. I must have had blue cod 6 times while I was in the SI recently

I knew our blue cod weren't cod but didn't know the Maori names for them - thanks!  That will take a bit of practice to get to the point where they roll off the tongue easily but I'll give it a go. (I like the idea of using "our" names - particularly for NZ fish ... if that makes sense).

Yeah, SI blue cod and butterfish / greenbone do taste better (and get bigger) IMO.  I don't know why but I like the theory of colder water having an impact and for butterfish I suspect it may also be influenced by the seaweed they eat.
]]> Fri, 16 May 2025 09:48:13 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843315&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843315 <![CDATA[Schnapper or Snapper? : Retiree wrote:RE: McTool &amp;...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843279&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843279 Author: MB
Subject: 4430
Posted: 15 May 2025 at 6:56pm

Originally posted by Retiree Retiree wrote:

RE:  McTool  &  MB  -  The German influence - "Sch...napper"
OK - as I lit a bit of a fire here, I'll do some digging ..........
I recall seeing a reference to two visiting German 'scientists' circa 1840-50.
A comment hinted that they did the Schnapper thing in their writings.
The other clue is that Schnapper is a not-uncommon Germanic surname.
That indicates straight away that schnapper is not a made-up spelling - it's real.
I shall hunt around and report back.

Very good. I'd be stoked if my theory turned out to be true!
]]> Thu, 15 May 2025 18:56:21 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843279&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843279 <![CDATA[Schnapper or Snapper? : RE: McTool &amp; MB - The German...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843278&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843278 Author: Retiree
Subject: 4430
Posted: 15 May 2025 at 6:17pm

RE:  McTool  &  MB  -  The German influence - "Sch...napper"
OK - as I lit a bit of a fire here, I'll do some digging ..........
I recall seeing a reference to two visiting German 'scientists' circa 1840-50.
A comment hinted that they did the Schnapper thing in their writings.
The other clue is that Schnapper is a not-uncommon Germanic surname.
That indicates straight away that schnapper is not a made-up spelling - it's real.
I shall hunt around and report back.
]]> Thu, 15 May 2025 18:17:55 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843278&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843278 <![CDATA[Schnapper or Snapper? : They reckon the reason Bluff oysters...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843273&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843273 Author: Mc Tool
Subject: 4430
Posted: 15 May 2025 at 10:15am

They reckon the reason Bluff oysters are better than the same genus grown elsewhere is because the colder water slows down growth rate , I wonder if its the same with other seafood 🙂.]]> Thu, 15 May 2025 10:15:32 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843273&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843273 <![CDATA[Schnapper or Snapper? : McTool. I had to look up blue...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843249&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843249 Author: smudge
Subject: 4430
Posted: 14 May 2025 at 7:39pm

McTool. I had to look up blue cod to see what it's is known as in maori language. I had no idea. Here's what Wikipedia had to say: rāwaru, pākirikiri and patutuki

All i know they are great eating but those ones down south are a much better table fish than the very few I have caught up here. I must have had blue cod 6 times while I was in the SI recently
]]> Wed, 14 May 2025 19:39:59 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843249&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843249 <![CDATA[Schnapper or Snapper? : Yeah I think early explorers just...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843248&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843248 Author: Mc Tool
Subject: 4430
Posted: 14 May 2025 at 6:55pm

Yeah I think early explorers just went with what they called similar looking fish back home , like blue cod which isnt even a cod .... But it looked like one and its blue so wtf ]]> Wed, 14 May 2025 18:55:39 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843248&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843248 <![CDATA[Schnapper or Snapper? : MB wrote:A wider discussion....]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843247&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843247 Author: smudge
Subject: 4430
Posted: 14 May 2025 at 6:52pm

Originally posted by MB MB wrote:

A wider discussion. A lot of Australasian fish (snapper included!) are woefully misnamed through the appropriation of northern hemisphere fish species names. In instances where a fish species doesn't have a taxonomically correct common name, I too prefer the Maori name. Kahawai is better than Australian salmon which is just stupid. Blue cod is stupid. Ling is stupid. Monkfish is stupid...

Hard to disagree. 

Don't even get me started on spelling - kawai, kawahi, ky (one of my favourites), kawhai, kawhia (another favourite) so many names hehe

]]> Wed, 14 May 2025 18:52:31 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843247&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843247 <![CDATA[Schnapper or Snapper? : A wider discussion. A lot of Australasian...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843246&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843246 Author: MB
Subject: 4430
Posted: 14 May 2025 at 6:46pm

A wider discussion. A lot of Australasian fish (snapper included!) are woefully misnamed through the appropriation of northern hemisphere fish species names. In instances where a fish species doesn't have a taxonomically correct common name, I too prefer the Maori name. Kahawai is better than Australian salmon which is just stupid. Blue cod is stupid. Ling is stupid. Monkfish is stupid...]]> Wed, 14 May 2025 18:46:50 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843246&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843246 <![CDATA[Schnapper or Snapper? : Mc Tool wrote:Schnapper sounds...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4430&PID=1843245&title=schnapper-or-snapper#1843245 Author: smudge
Subject: 4430
Posted: 14 May 2025 at 6:41pm

Originally posted by Mc Tool Mc Tool wrote:

Schnapper sounds German-ish , not that I have a problem with that at all , just that I never thought of Snapper as German , Schnapps yes . And anyhow I wasnt around in the 40's to ever have called them schnapper.
As for tamure yeah why not ,sounds nice but me personally being +60 are finding more "new" names for things make listening to conversation frustrating because, just supposing I hear it properly in the 1st place, I have to translate ( not always quickly ) so I can get the gist of what or who is being discussed , specially watching the news .
I would rather see Blue cod be identified by its Maori name because its exclusive to NZ
Ha kinda reminds me of changing to metric or decimal currency .....suddenly just about every aspect of daily life required a little deciphering and calculating 😁

Can't say I disagree with you
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