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    Posted: 09 Mar 2012 at 8:36pm
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just bought me a sks..its going to be my all round rifle until i can afford a .308 or similar..So does anybody use 1 of these guns?
i want to be prepared 4 anything so pros and cons please.
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I've seen them talked about heaps here, http://www.fishnhunt.co.nz/forum/YaBB.cgi?board=firearms1
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Be careful with it, i personally don't like them and would have kept saving for a .308 or similar. 
Remember after each shot there is another in the chamber ready to go,seems obvious but in the heat of the moment easily overlooked. When unloading ALWAYS check the breech, (look and feel) there was a guy shot in the ass in the Oamaru hut by someone playing with an SKS from memory. 
At least with a bolt action everyone can see when the bolt is open
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Originally posted by Blair_D Blair_D wrote:

Be careful with it, i personally don't like them and would have kept saving for a .308 or similar. 
Remember after each shot there is another in the chamber ready to go,seems obvious but in the heat of the moment easily overlooked. When unloading ALWAYS check the breech, (look and feel) there was a guy shot in the ass in the Oamaru hut by someone playing with an SKS from memory. 
At least with a bolt action everyone can see when the bolt is open
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reliable as. They kill people at 250M+ depends what type of terrain your hunting thick bush etc cheap as chips to feed. as for its semi auto capabilities a bit of common sense is needed (like anything really) put a few boxes through her at different ranges so you know whats up and whats not...did you get the 16inch barrel or the 20 inch becoz the 16 inch is a bit noisy + you loose a bit of velocity. I reckon they are pretty underated really $400-$500 you cant go wrong dosnt matter what rifle you get they all gonna knock down game aye.

hope that helps :)
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people lol?????
and its the 16inch but 500 with scope and bipod and synthetic stock was good

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yea mate if they can kill people out at 250 of corse they will knock down a deer say 200 max. $500 thats a bloody good deal Thumbs Up

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If it was a Guns.h.i.t.t.y package,throw the scope away and get a better one from the $2 shop.Most stuff guncity branded is either knockoff chinese junk or plain ole chinese junk,both overpriced.
 
Otherwise not bad guns for the money.I had one but wouldnt let the kids use it due to being semi auto. You will get some looks and sly comments from hunters at times.(Normally the T3 7mm08 carrying Tryin-hard-to-Look-the-part crowd).
 
But they drop deer/goats fine so long as you get used to the gun,just like most guns i guess. Plenty of upgrades for them. Found around 150 metres was proly max solid hitting range for reds.
 
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Thanks brian...Yea the scope is now in my sons toybox, I only get it out when the neighbour mows the lawn in her undies..Jokes Jokes,, But it was cheap and its my first rifle apart for the .22. Until i can afford a parkerhale or better.

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I have several of the $400 for new, Baikals in .223, 243 and 762.39. Just the one stock though and change the calibres as i want. Brilliant guns for the money if you like single shot.Get a 12 guage barrel as well,and its a very versatile gun.
 
I also bought one of the norinco Jw103 bolt actions in 7.62x39 and after putting 50 rounds through it and hand polishing a few of the parts its a damn good knock around gun.  GC has them for $500 However,if you follow this link for the package version of them, and decide to go with NO scope or rings, they are only $350!! a bargain.  ( which is how i got mine).  http://www.guncity.co.nz/7.62x39-norinco-bush-ranger-rifle-scoped-package-xidp118136.html 
 
Though for a good first or sec rifle i seriously doubt you could go past this  http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=456829385    Brilliant calibre and i would certainly buy it myself  if i hadnt already got 2 in this calibre.  Almost no range limit and will drop whatever you like with pinpoint accuracy and next to no recoil.  Just saying.
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ave ya got a pic of ya new gun Poormanfisher?
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Be a bit of fun i reckon, see a few of em down the range, pretty serious firepower, not sure what there like hunting!!
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Semi auto's should be banned in the nz bush. no place for them when animal hunting,To easy to forget they are always loaded when the shooting starts. and lets face it people have a habit of sticking there finger on the triggers on any rifle.. TEFAIIIL that's my law i stick to it.... but they are so noice to shoot at the range :) 
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Originally posted by Hard_core_gamer Hard_core_gamer wrote:

Semi auto's should be banned in the nz bush.  


Well I guess you won't be coming hunting with me cause i only have semi autos and have done for last 20 years. SKS work OK, shoot what you have.  If it goes bang and the deer falls over it will do.
As long as you are safety concious you will be fine, hunters seem to get their nickers in a bunch when talking about semi autos!

Originally posted by Hard_core_gamer Hard_core_gamer wrote:

and lets face it people have a habit of sticking there finger on the triggers on any rifle.. 


Funny I was taught way back when you only put your finger "inside" the trigger guard when you are "almost" ready to shoot and on the trigger only when 100% on target.
When I was a nipper my dad painted a black spot just above the trigger and said " unless you are actually shooting at something that's where your trigger finger lives, I see it inside the guard and you aren't shooting I'll remove the finger" (ah good old no PC days).


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Mike e i relise that some hunters use semi's. but had a bad scare 20 odd years back. and i have seen a few people with there finger on the triggers and most dont relise they have it on there..
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Semis vs bolt action. it always comes down to safety really.  I have seen untold numbers of people with bolt action rifles( wouldnt call them hunters as i understand the meaning)who load the mag fully plus one up the spout at full cock then walk around with the safety on. F that. I prefer to Squeeze the trigger,close the bolt,then put the mag in and thats how i stalk untill i am ready to shoot.  Once shot i will leave the bolt closed on the empty round untill i need to shoot again.if i dont fire i eject the round,top mag up and,repeat.Its something i do almost without thinking about it.
Once ive shot my semi i will take the mag out and do the same thing.  This is how i was taught and having had a guy walking behind me whos gun was loaded plus one up the spout and safety on,then tripped and put a round tween my legs.. its how my kids are taught as well.
 
Might seem over cautious to some  but i have 4 kids watching amd imitating me a lot and actions will speak louder than 'Do as i say not as i do'.
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Your on to it aye :) if you did a survey on how many people took the mag out of a semi after one or two shots on a 10 round mag i bet you would have .1% :) take a look at ya mates and there mates when out on a hunt one day, see if they have there finger on the trigger...it's human nature to put it there. even i did till it was drummed outa me. did you tell the guy off for almost giving you a new bung hole?
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To be honest,by the time i was at the stage of being able to coherently form words his rifle barrel was bent and the stock had somehow fallen off. I was tailend charlie of a group of trampers and he was the first of a group of 3 hunters following us in. Only one of the mugs had a licence and it was all 3's first hunt ever. If you ever make it to Daleys flat hut,look closely at the poker used for the fire.
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It's a little bit BS saying semi's are more unsafe than bolt guns, it only takes one round to kill ya own mate and an idiot with a bolt gun is going to be just as bad with a semi and vice-versa.
 
As far as the 'safety catch' debate, I have been known to rely on the 3-position Mauser 'flag' safety when hunting, as that places a chunk of steel between the cocking piece and the chambered round.  I don't rely on anything else that is also called a 'safety catch', as most just stop you from being able to pull the trigger with one finger.  I have seen some that a strong guy can bend and still discharge the firearm even with the trigger block closed...
 
The trigger blocking mechanism could still release and fire if it is dropped with the trigger block closed, which it can't with the Mauser type.  Some overly anal-retentive types get their knickers in a twist at that, saying the sky will fall and the Mayan calender will end 6 months early but they are FOS...
 
That is the let-down of the SKS type rifles from my limited experience with them, the safety only prevents trigger movement and the action is especially noisy to operate due to the wide tolerances on parts.  When stalking you basically have to carry the thing with a round chambered due to the noise of the action when loading, and then you have a safety catch in name only.  You will have to be especially careful to always point in a safe direction, even during and after a fall for that reason.
 
Also, be careful which ammo you use as there has been some reports of certain versions not liking softer-primered sporting style ammo and doing bad things.  Stick with either surplus or steel case hunting ammo and you should be right...
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I have one and recommend it, have shot everything from cattle to bunnies with it was great for bomb ups on goats, shot deer chamois and alsorts, not long ago got another one in synthetic lots of fun they are. Like any rifle treat it as loaded all the time.
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