Anyone else worried about this chart?

Hey look Lethal....Little Barrier to Horn Rock and the Mokes......THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!!

Yeah exactly Kingfishsi....

I have been privy to lots and lots of correspondance between DoC (Emma Rush - [email protected] ) and many Barrier locals and concerned individuals - DoC is basically reapeating themselves and refusing to answer sensible questions pertaining to their proposal and stated that they are not interested in the South East coast of the Barrier.....they where not counting on the above chart to be "leaked" now where they?

WE SIMPLY CAN'T TRUST DOC.

This is the email address that you should use to request brochures, submission form and by all means ask any questions you see fit.

[email protected]

Please make their responces public on this site, so as to be able to cross reference and expose the 1/2 truths!

Kerren, where did the picture come from?

Hey Lethal, I've got an evil plan... When I finally get a boat I'll be naming it 'DoC RESEARCH Fish Division' or something to that effect... I'll be catching fish for scientific purposes of course! Aswell as making sure the quality of fish inside reserves is still up to the high quality as outside a reserve by carrying out taste tests.

AC...

Dr. Flor Anthoni of Sea Friends (good guys) emailed it out to several hundred people, so I guess everyone here deserves to see what they have planned.

Even if Emma isn't qualified to answer questions, she will be forced to use up resource when faced with requests for information....they are spreading "us" thin...and as they say each action has an equal and opposite reaction.

Make sure you point out that you are concerend by the lack of consultation shown by DoC and you are unhappy for your tax $$$'s to be utilised in such fashion.

when reading the chart remember that the "red" dots aren't representitive of the total area they are looking at...probably just the center of the plan...how far the radius extends is anyone's guess!

A C, just mentioned that I had seen the chart titled 'AREAS OF SIGNIFICANCE HAVING MARINE PROTECTED AREA STATUS OR WARRANTING INVESTIGATION' and was aware of the Gt Barrier and Tiritiri/Whangaparaoa proposals but had heard nothing of these marked areas. Then I requested information on when they plan on making proposals for the marked areas... that sort of stuff.

I'm pretty laid back aswell and didn't get all aggro or hurl abuse at them or anything. That sort of thing will just get put in the 'far queue' or stored in the round file.

I'm still eagerly awaiting a reply to my email and will post it under this thread as soon as I get it. They obviously don't have a standard reply for this issue yet.

Cheers
Si

It's a bit of a concern alright.

Cheers

AC

I think there might be a cone of silence surrounding the Barrier proposal at the present!....DoC must be feling guilty about not answering direct questions or run out of BS that they actually believe themselves.

Hey KingfishSi, Tiri is not DOC's proposal, it is NZ Underwater's.

So lads, it turns out that the map we just all got upset about is out of date and of no relevance to the matters at hand.  Nice waste of time.

I also had an email from Emma Rush.

She says what I have been saying - that DOC is working on a PROCESS for selecting reserve areas as a representative network, and they expect there to be a HELL OF A LOT of public consultation.  DOC has the message loud and clear that ad-hoc reserves will not be acceptable dotted all about the countryside.

So, go home tonight, relax.  Have a cold beer.  Think about one reserve at Great Barrier Island, and consider if it would be a good thing or not, in isolation, for that spot to be allowed to recover a bit from being fished. 

Then, don't get all upset about losing the rest of the Hauraki Gulf, it won't happen.  Fill out DOC's questionaire on GBI (or refer to Option 4's excellent website for online access to do that), and send it.  Answer the questions, it's not a submission, it's a questionaire.  Submission periods are planned for a later date.  Then forget about it, you'll have your chance later to express your view more fully later.

When you go to sleep tonight, imagine areas that you wouldn't mind making reserves - if there are any such places.  Think about how YOU would introduce a network of reserves in your area IF YOU HAD TO, encompassing all of the marine habitats, from estuaries, harbours, coast, and deeper areas.  These are the issues you will be asked about at some stage in the not-to-distant future.  Maybe have a read of some stuff about the Oceans policy.  Think about the full range of marine users, and what would work for the fish too.  Don't worry about the 10% for now.  Maybe find some Marine reserves scientific articles and read them right through to the end (Try Bill Ballantine). 

Consider the possibility that it will all work out in the end, that the whole world is not 'Baddies' and that there are actually people just like you working to improve the world and you don't even know what they are doing, or who they are.  Consider the possibility that the info you've based your opinions on is not perfect, and you do not in fact know everything there is to know about the sea.  I hope you are looking forward as much as I am in TAKING PART in a process that does end up selecting marine reserve locations (or other protection).  All we can do at the moment is to look forward to being a part of it, and hopefully we will get the chance soon.