Judith Collins is now the new National leader of Opposition.

Yay. shes got a bigger set of balls than muller.

Fish Addict wrote: I'm interested in NZ politics from a distance.  The National Party hasn't exactly done themselves any favours with three  leaders over the last four months.  Economically it's probably the election no-one wants to win. The media would have us believe wonder woman Cindy will win comfortably.  Is a NP win possible?

mate people like me decide elections... not people who vote for same parties every time... please don’t feel sorry for me , but love your empathy.

Labour will win and carry the can, but not convinced the new Nat leader would espouse /do any different on that.

Fishy11 wrote: shaneg wrote: mate people like me decide elections... not people who vote for same parties every time... please don’t feel sorry for me , but love your empathy. To be clear my comment was a general statement to anyone and wasn't directed at you personally. Labour and national are both puppets. Both are under investigation by the serious fraud office... and that is just the tiniest tip of the iceberg. One may be worse than the other i'd agree, but in reality the end goal is all the same and will be the same. The speed and the way in which they get us there is all that really changes. We get to vote which one is in government ok..... that does not then inherently mean we actually have a say in any of the decisions that effect us.

Muller didnt stand a chance.
 The 'new order' of the Nat party is very different from that of the key/ english/ brownlee etc, where where basically united in one direction.
 They left, Bridges takes over.. a neg critical rather than this how should be attitude, the party openly split into 2 or 3 factions of own self interest.
Bridges gets rolled.. had to be, Muller one of the other factions steps up... get sabotaged by another faction by going to media behind his back, others resign ...and further fumbling in the background.
Has no choice but resign.
 Now way can anyone lead such a situation without firing the whole party
 Party caucus gets a big wake up call now realising they just forced their leader out and a split party doesnt work at all.
 So that leaves Collins and hopefully the party has a wake up call as to what they have done.

Now if the caucau can manage to stop sabotaging each other, pull together in the interests of the country they may have a long shot.

Saw some TV shots of Judith going in to vote on Nats leader. While others were quite glum, Judith was grinning from ear to ear. Reminded me a bit like the Joker...