What is the best soft bait rod today?

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To use the old wine writers' saying, the cheapest one that you like.
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Start by listing the variables and then reword the question...chur
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My cheapest rod (Daiwa Coastal) i have had the best results.
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I enjoy my Kilwell 2 piece dropshot. 
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haha this is gonna be a funny one. think the composite developments dropshot is one of the best in the biz, synit banchee, the pflueger rods are pretty nice. best thing is go into the shop and put a bend in some and you will see what you like.
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Ok, some base rules to to define the question a let better:
class 1:  The best, most expensive rod out there
class 2:  The best cheapest rod.
class 3:  The best, full stop.

I hope this helps Wink

By the way, let's exclude custom rods for now... we can talk rod blanks later...
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Originally posted by dragwasher dragwasher wrote:

Ok, some base rules to to define the question a let better:
class 1:  The best, most expensive rod out there
class 2:  The best cheapest rod.
class 3:  The best, full stop.

I hope this helps Wink

By the way, let's exclude custom rods for now... we can talk rod blanks later...
 
1.  I'm out of date with the latest and greatest - but as at 2 years ago, the latest and greatest expensive SB rods were just not me.
 
2. and 3. are the same for me.  One model from one manufacturer.  I can still get 'em for well under $100 each, and I have several in different places and with different reels on (eg 3 lots of RH and LH pairs, otherwise the same; one spin lot and 2 baitcaster lots with 2 different baitcaster models for different purposes).  Six rods for about $580; the oldest pair have given me 5 years' service, and act and look as good as the day I bought them.
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The best most expensive rod has to be the Synits and not all are custom made but are in shops too. Got one as a baitcaster(well meant to be inchiku) acid wrapped mean as just found it to be awesome as a baitcasting rod too.
The best cheapest rod mmmm I class $200 and under as cheap so Gen III Dropshots are pretty nice a bit stiffer than the older ones.
Best rod overall Xzoga Mastery 10-20lb killer blank thats an absolute pleasure to use. The Japanese know how to design blanks for their work and most new softbait rods are copying the design of the high modulus carbon this rod is. Had one for over 2 years love it. Its baby lighter 8-16lb brother is great for channel fishing the feel of the fish through these blanks is outstanding.
 
I always say angling is all about the rod and the more enjoyment you get out your gear the better. If I just wanted fish to eat I'd go to the fish shopLOL   
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Depends what you call cheap. $100 you can get a catana does it's job but expect to own more than one in your life time. $130-150 can get coastal, backbone, veritas. All of those 3 rods have there advantages.
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There's a fascinating set of questions here.
 
If
 
1.  we assume the technology is going to get better and better, and
 
2.  the top-of-the line rods will be specified/made/assembled differently from time to time accordingly, and
 
3.  you as the top-of the line rod buyer always want to have the "best" in the sense of top-of-the-line as defined this way, then
 
4.  you aren't going to have anything near a lifetime's use out of any rod, are you?  What, about 3-5 years before it's useless for you because you need to update?
 
5.  So why don't you start with something that's already reckoned to be obsolete?
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Its not the point though PJayLOL
 
You don't necersarily go looking for the best rod(for yourself that is) you may stumble across it by chance. I had not been happy with the few softbait rods I had to start with hated the feel of them they just stayed loaded no lifting power or feel for me. I had come across the rods at Just Fishin and I got one and I have not come across a rod that is as good in that price range(or higher in fact).
I come to like fast actioned rods high modulus carbon that respond quicker and give every kick the fish makes go straight through your arm. I didn't know it when I brought it but as soon as started to hook the fish it was a world away from the Dropshots etc that had been the norm. I don't know how much better a rod could get tbh I just know what I like Cool    
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Currently getting a rod built by Reel Rods, 2nd one from Keiron. That should give you a clue as to what a feel is best.
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It's a bit like the old car debate. They'll both get you there and same applies to rods. Generally the more you pay the better the rod, but when you look at how well PJay does on some of his cheap stuff, it's pretty obvious you don't need the flash kit to nail the horses. 
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I do take Muppet's points about maximising your fishing enjoyment.  I get as much fun out of a little kahawai on my gear as out of much bigger fish.
 
My criteria are basically that I can
 
1.  cast accurately up to 50m,
 
2.  detect takes of all sorts, and
 
3.  set hooks in any circumstance; and that
 
4.  the rod doesn't get (much) overpowered by big fish such as 1m+ snapper or 20kg+ kingfish.
 
It is a given that any rod has to be able to absorb the shock of sudden runs and turns - that's why we use rods and not handlines.
 
I really cannot imagine any rod giving me more enjoyment out of my softbaiting than I have already.  The several so-called top-of-the-line rods I have tried (and owned) all failed me on 2 and 3 above, and failed me dismally on 4.
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went out on memory makers last week and used the synit banshee? I think it was, dam if I did not catch some good snaps and kings on that puppy, very impressed and if i was buying another rod that would be the pick.
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