I have put in bold what is a very
reasonable solution, mediates with public and "Stakeholders". Public
education. Limited home grow options.
I refer you to leafily. a
website setup to find the right cannabis for patients. and what the ex
UN DP for 8 years and of course our Prime Minister for 9 years Helen Elizabeth Clark ONZ SSI PC
Scroll down to Condtitions if for Medical
https://www.leafly.com/start-exploring
Helen Clarke ONZ SSI PC (she aint no fool, so take this serious to have someone with her intelligence and knowledge say yes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB8vqwN-sG4
The Government has announced details of how New Zealanders will choose whether or not to legalise and regulate cannabis, said Justice Minister Andrew Little.
The Coalition Government is committed to a health-based approach to drugs, to minimise harm and take control away from criminals. The referendum is a commitment in the Labour-Green Confidence and Supply Agreement, as well as a longstanding commitment from New Zealand First to hold a referendum on the issue.
“There will be a clear choice for
New Zealanders in a referendum at the 2020 General Election. Cabinet
has agreed there will be a simple Yes/No question on the basis of a
draft piece of legislation.
“That draft legislation will include:
“Officials are now empowered to draft the legislation with stakeholder input, and the Electoral Commission will draft the referendum question to appear on the ballot.
“The voters’ choice will be binding because all of the parties that make up the current Government have committed to abide by the outcome.
“We hope and expect the National Party will also commit to respecting the voters’ decision.
“I have today released the actual paper considered by Cabinet,” said Andrew Little.
The Justice Minister also confirmed there will be no other government initiated referendums at the next election.
pjc wrote: legalize it and thats the end of the northland economy. We have drug testing at work so if legal and you smoked on sunday night and fail the test monday,then what?? Boss stands you down does he or should he pay you?? |
FizFisho wrote: Ok Im not sure if there was a thread or not but I think its time this gets out there. (FYI I am not affiliated with any group) As there are shed load of people stuck on opiate based "Pain Killers" that actually cause pain. People on Steroids that just dont work and so many neurological drugs that just leave your head as soup. And then there are people who instead of having a beer at night just want a puff on their pipe and then there are those who instead of getting fight read drunk and causing all kinds of death to society like car crashes, people just want to smoke a joint, watch a movie and eat cheesels. I fall into the pain Group and I also love Cheesels but current weight wont allow that. Cannabis was demonised by Nixon in his war on drugs to this day they have not won bu incarcerated and taught people how to actually be ciriminals all because they wanted to do was smoke some sticky icky. Reagan, who I admired as a young man took it a step further I believe and called it National Securities number one threat (what the f, even if drugs were a war was the white powder streaming in not a bigger threat). Yes cannabis is not suited to a very rare minority of people. But these people by the time are adults are usually under care full time care. My uncle was one but worked all his life lonely as a boiler man, and he did smoke it and it fact it helped him, but he smoked the right stuff for him. Cabbage/Leaf/Trim which is largely CBD. Cannabis is extracts ie CBD oil of high potency is said to be 2x stronger than Hydrocortosone. Research why taking steroids long term is counter productiive. CBD is NOT a magic bullet for pain, if you are like me and have lower lumbar issues which at times are acute then it is not going to kill that pain. If your pain has become muscular it is very possible it is suitable for this. I would use it for MS, Fybromyalgia, Arthritis (Rheumatoid) etc. But if my spinal cord is being compressed its not the magic bullet. It will help I believe along with lower opiates. But like steroids, taking Opiates break you immune system. Endorphins (Morphine is taking from this word) are what help regulate your immune system. When you take opiates they block endorphins and do not have the same effect that endorphins do. This is proven, google it. Some have proven it cures Cancer etc, and yes Im positive it doesnt cure everybody. Likewise I believe it wont work for everyones pain etc. But Cannabis is NOT a gateway drug, that is proven by the use of people in California and Canada, doctors, lawyers etc. Cannabis POT Heads are lazy and lazy people will always be lazy. The vast majority lead lives like prominent actors and as I mentioned doctors etc. Be serious, that is just a stereotype. There are 2 times types of plants, indica and sativa. Indica is generally a lower growing/faster plant to mature and carries far more physical properties (couch like if you smoke too much). Where Sativa is tall and is known for its pyschoactive properties. Then there are hybrids which is where the Pharmaceutical companies come in. Yes thats right, the people we want to rid ourselves of already owned the majority of farms in Cali and most elsewhere. Hybrids offer medicine and recreation beyond belief, there are literally thousands of different plants now. Some range from what I would use AC/DC which is 20:1 CBD/THC to those heavily in the THC bracket. The big thing in Cali and north mid west is extracts, oils, wax, shatter, all very much like old school hash which can be made a few ways but these extracts have things like 97% CBD crystals which is beyond what you could sift. Which leads us to our current state CBD fn oils. Do you know how much these cost? Well I will tell you, for me, quality CBD oil would cost $2000 a month. Lets get serious, when you are ill you cannot afford this. Hence the governments plan to introduce Canabis based from the looks off Canada which is 100% legal and a bit of California. But Im not an expert, all I know is this makes sense. and its not hard and fast, they will change these if there seems valid reason. The main choice is, should people be allowed to possess, use and grow (very limited amount) of cannabis. I wont go down the path of how much economic gain we have missed in 20 years, but its obvious NZ is dependant on dairy and agriculture. Both in conflict with each other, affluent off farms kills our native fish habitat for example. Or that the culling of Trees by 99% in 100 years, or that I read the US is turning away from dairy within 10 years (speculation). This country cannot survive on 100% bullS Pure Lies advertising (ive worked in ecology, ive seen it first hand) or off Agriculture which is at arms with Tourism. Our Glaciers are going. It just goes on and on as to why we need to move and adapt. I have put in bold what is a very <span>https://www.leafly.com/start-exploring <span>Helen Clarke </span><span><span>ONZ SSI PC </span>(she aint no fool, so take this serious to have someone with her intelligence and knowledge say yes) <span> The Government has announced details of
The
“There will be a clear choice for “That draft legislation will include:
“Officials
“The voters’ choice will be binding because
“We hope and expect the National Party will also commit to respecting the voters’ decision.
“I have today released the actual paper considered by Cabinet,” said Andrew Little.
The Justice Minister also confirmed there will be no other government initiated referendums at the next election. </span>"drunk and causing all kinds of death to society like car crashes" Happens on weed as well. Worked with a guy who smoked all the time. He regularly did damage to himself at work. I tried to explain to him I did not care what he did to himself, however I did care about what he could potentially do to me or another work associate. |
SaltyC wrote: Except for one argument, Rozboon, just because one bad thing is legal doesn't mean there should be two! |
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