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    Posted: 17 Aug 2017 at 11:22am
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Came across this
http://www.onthefence.co.nz/
 you put your stance on policies in, then it sorts which parties policies best over all match based on your weighting of the policy's importance to you.
 I was a little suprised in my results
In saying that, in retrospect, if a party  in particular a minor party chooses policies to catch votes and have them negotiable to drop at the 'king/ queen' making tables to form a government, as usually happens, then that weighting of the party is very different to yours.
This then does put a bit of tongue in cheek in the results.
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Don't use a survey to decide which party most suits you or who you should vote for. There are far more scientific methods. Try rolling a dice, tossing a coin or throwing a dart or recounting a dream.
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nah, just vote on personality, its all just a realty tv program ya know
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Thanks Steps - went through it and was surprised at the result - not what I expected at all - food for thought in next few months...
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results were exactly as I would vote.
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I'm guessing everyone is coming up as NZ First? That's because they have popularist policies (and that's what I got). There is no way I am voting for Winnie's mates. Still going for NZ outdoors party for my party vote.


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I prefer financial stability.

If I've got money in the bank I have choices.
If I'm paying taxes for everybody's dreams I have begger all left over to spend on myself.

I don't like socialism as I'm not a fan of being told what to do.

The greenies are sandal wearers with daft ideas.
I want a green planet but there plan is smoke the green and the come up with the idea, flaw there I think.

Winnie is a great chap, but he can talk you into or out of anything, I'm not a fan of flannel.

I'll stick with blue, who recently pulled us out of a world financial slump, afforded Christchurch, and now are having money in the bank to spend on things we need, and will still keep making us money if there in, plus there are jobs for Africa so all good there as I see it.
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It must be said at this point that the good work in building a robust economy was partly done by the Clark government. Shame National stopped investing in the Cullen fund. Would have had enough in the bank to pay for another ChCh. 

National have done a good solid job, as did labour before them. IMO the last government to really dig NZ into a hole was Muldoon.




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I'm guessing everyone is coming up as NZ First? That's because they have popularist policies (and that's what I got). There is no way I am voting for Winnie's mates. Still going for NZ outdoors party for my party vote.

 Smudge is on to it..
my comment above...

In saying that, in retrospect, if a party  in particular a minor party chooses policies to catch votes and have them negotiable to drop at the 'king/ queen' making tables to form a government, as usually happens, then that weighting of the party is very different to yours.
This then does put a bit of tongue in cheek in the results.

Which makes the election on minor parties  very much like

nah, just vote on personality, its all just a realty tv program ya know

 being spot on
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That's 2 likes for MattThumbs Up No other viable choices. 
Just because Labour/Clark were in power during a boom doesn't point to them "building a robust economy". If you look at the big picture instead of making the most of it and saving/paying debt it got spent. In saying that if you want to stay in power in a "democracy" you have to please the punters. 
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Gareth Morgan for sure
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got nat 1st with nzf,just the way i would vote,financial stability top of the list.
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Anyone but the Gnats!   https://www.facebook.com/nzlpmsc/photos/a.1615866471973571.1073741831.1614639705429581/1724269357799948/?type=3&theater
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financial stability for some and a fked environment for all
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We have had a financial growth dependant on population growth rather than increase in productivity and reduced hrs.
 Which is fiscally the best soln to survive , get thru a international resection and come out the other side in good condition.
Down side.. do this with a infrastructure that has been neglected and not planned for the future for many DECADES .
Up side, then spending big money on that infrastructure  maintains fiscal growth at the expense of convenience, well after the next economic (7 to 9 yrs) cycle
 If the infra structure has been neglected , usually means a increase in social structure spending.... eg  subsiding and un naturally change of markets like rents.
 If they fiscal policies are not artificiality held up with population growth , they we would have gone down the tubes like  Greece, Spain , Ireland, where hey too had introduced social subsidies.
 Environment:
 Bottom line, environment decreases directly proportionally to population increase....Population increase , means loss of viable land, more effluent, more loading on resources to supply..

Apply the above in retrospect to the 80s, a bankrupt country, cutting back, then once starting to recover , massive social vote catching substities and social engineering change from  the priority of society as a hole to the freedom of choice of individual.  eg  that country needs X number tradesman for next 50yrs, but rather open spots for anyone to study hip hop (whatever) and still be supported by society, while getting plumber is difficult and expensive. 

And all this happens simply due to a country voting (or not voting) in leaders who have policies that make votes rather than policies for the long term good of society

 Well if you have managed to read thru that.. well done.

Old saying: " A country deserves the government it has , and gets"

We have not had a Government that has has had the overall social and fiscal policies planned long term for over 50 yrs.
 
 What we have had are governments who have either been forced to muddle thru on the back of previous governments policies once a international crisis incident happens, or on recovery have short term vote getting policies at the long term fiscal and social consequences, resulting in a perpetually growing  bureaucratic night mare.
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Interesting... TOP then National close second .. not how my vote was aligning at all but guess that is more personality based. Probably might have to have harder think on policies and what I was intending to vote for will or might deliver.
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Wife just did same and got same survey and result TOP first and National second .... we might be similar but not that much. This tool appears jack up loaded towards TOP and National.
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TOP first and National second .... we might be similar but not that much. This tool appears jack up loaded towards TOP and National.
NO
 read the posts above.. think about it.. If a party has a lot of populist policies , yes it will come top of the choice.. or be included.
But that doesnt mean these policies will NOT be negotiable to be dropped to get to the treasury benches.

 In past elections SOME policies where announce as non negotiable by some parties.. eg the Sue Bradford/ greens smacking policies (which we now have because not beinge non negotiable.

If a policy was not negotiable, then Im sure extra weighting would be given to that policy in the calculations, But At this point , Im not a were of any party having a non negotiable policy.
Which comes down to.. they are just spouting off to do the best to get seats in parliament and everything is bottom line BS
 And this also applies to any parties 'fish' policy.


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Wasn't impressed by Gareth Morgan and his lipstick on a pig comment about labours new leader!
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