Sea Nymph 14.6' Wasp - specs anyone

Page  12>
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote JerryHatrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Sea Nymph 14.6' Wasp - specs anyone
    Posted: 07 Apr 2009 at 9:15pm
JerryHatrick View Drop Down
Silver
Silver
Avatar

Joined: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Hibiscus Coast
Status: Offline
Points: 111
Just bought a reasonable early/mid-80's? Sea Nymph Wasp & not knowing them, went looking but couldn't find much detail on the World Wide Wait so was wondering if anyone here knows them well & may have some specs on it - you know, weights, hull speeds, what size aux motor will do the job, eg 5-6Hp - short/long shaft? (has rise&fall aux bracket fitted),  good stuff, bad stuff, etc etc - that sort of thing.
 
Has late '80's Yamaha 90 on it - seems to be heavy for the boat, but she runs well enough once woken up ...
 
Any info appreciated Smile
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote tas-tackle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Apr 2009 at 11:40pm
tas-tackle View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 28 Apr 2007
Location: Cable Bay NZ
Status: Offline
Points: 3775
Basically they are the cabin version of the proverbial 14'6 Sea Nymph.. albeit a little heavier with the cabin top than its standard counterpart... Still IMHO the best boat for its size and with the gull wing and no strakes hull are soft riding and sea kindly.. This hull tho needs HP to push it and having owned some 4-5 of them with different motor configurations, found they need > 70hp to push them.. Ideal HP for economy.. the cabin version offers smallish bunks but adequate shelter and with a 90HP to my mind would suit the extra cabin weight and get up and boogy... if it has a rise and fall bracket, any small motor in the 6 ish + aux range will push you home.. If you have just bought the boat, do yourself and those that travel out on the briny with you a favour... being an older motor, get it fully serviced and checked..  and get the relative saftey gear and communicatons equipment needed.. All in all a magic little boat for inshore and on a "clear" day for venturing that little bit further..

http://www.tas-tackle.co.nz
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote JerryHatrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2009 at 8:03am
JerryHatrick View Drop Down
Silver
Silver
Avatar

Joined: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Hibiscus Coast
Status: Offline
Points: 111
Thanks fisher - it's great to hear from someone who's had a few of them Smile
 
Got an '89 90HP Yamaha 2stroker on it - old, but in "reasonable" nick. Having some niggles sorted, but the twice that I've had her out she went well with the 90 out back. Planes reasonably quickly & easily & handles Ok I think.
 
Now busy redoing the upholstery on the squabs & stuff, putting decent stainless rodholders on it & busy fabricating s/s brackets to hold a baitboard attached to the side of the ski-pole.  Then compass & fixed VHF & all that - got teh basics sorted ir flares & buouyancy aids & whatnot. Prob spending too much now on aesthetics, but she's going to look good afterwards I think. (well, hope).
 
Having said that I don't know them much, am quite pleased with it so far.
 
Thanks for input!
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Huggybear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Apr 2009 at 11:26am
Huggybear View Drop Down
Silver
Silver


Joined: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Tamaki Makaurau
Status: Offline
Points: 347
CONGRATULATIONS!!! Clap I'm impressed JH! You've gone and got yourself one of the best (I believe) 4.5m boats around and it seems you weren't even looking for a Sea Nymph 14'6" in particular. You have struck gold mate and you will soon see what a great boat it is. An oldy but a goody, as they say! It's good to hear that you have already got enjoyment out of it.
 
I have a Wasp as well. I have a 70hp on mine and it goes sweetly. The 90 would be good - you'd have some extra grunt there. But I spoke with a coastguard instructor who had a 90 on his Sea Nymph 14'6" and he reckoned that it was over-powered (he didn't have the Wasp cabin version, he had the open-cockpit version) and heavier than was needed. He said the flaws were mostly rectified by adding a hydrofoil to aid it up on to the plane and trim it out better. I believe he had a permatrim as he also had a Yammie. I have put a hydrofoil on mine (an SE300Sport)and it does get up on the plane quicker and prevents possible porpoising. There is some debate about the effectiveness of hydrofoils, but from what I've read and first-hand experience, I would say you may notice some real positive results if you chuck one on.  
 
I'll tell you a few great things about the boat mate. Awesome design - by Frank Pelin - a well known NZ boat designer and who has designed some great craft. Solid, stable and very sea-worthy in the rough chop. Their sea-worthiness is renowned. The Wasp is great because you can go out quite comfortably on overnight fishing trips. Mine is as warm as toast even in winter - and the cabin isn't even closed off! (My cabin is marine carpeted though). The cabin offers shelter from the elements, and is especially good if you have kids. My 5yr old son has, on most trips I have taken him out, gone up front and had a kip. The cabin offers dry storage for electronics, sleeping bags, warm clothing, etc. Awesome for the dusk-dawn fishing trips. I've gone out on an evening fish, slept overnight, and got up early the next morning. What great times I've had! I think the Wasp is one of the smallest runabouts that has such a roomy cabin. Some might say the cabin knocks off some cockpit space, but I don't think that's too true. For the boat size you've still got some room to move around. As I say, just remember that your 14'6" is only 2 feet longer than a 12' tinnie, but what a world of difference in every way!
 
Basically, if she's a sound boat and you have got your engine serviced, you'll get heaps of fun out of it. As for an aux outboard, I would say that a 4hp should do just fine. And don't worry too much about what you are spending on it. It's only natural to want to get a boat up to what you want it to be and adding safety equipment or getting it kitted out as you would like does cost money, but hey, it will make you safer and your time out on the water alot more enjoyable. Tongue 
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote JerryHatrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Apr 2009 at 4:55pm
JerryHatrick View Drop Down
Silver
Silver
Avatar

Joined: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Hibiscus Coast
Status: Offline
Points: 111
Thanks HuggyBear - been away for a few days & only now saw your response. Yep - the half-cabin works well for us - leaves enough fishing space out back for me & a mate on the fishing trips, but on "family" trips out it works equally well for the 3 kids up front & taking it easy.
 
Been wondering about a hydrofoil & may just take a chance on fitting one to see if it helps a bit - the 90 as you say has enough grunt to get her up, but does seem to be slightly heavy out back, so any improvement in trim / stability should be good. 
 
Will put some pics on the rig thread once she looks nice & everything that I want to do's done ...
 
Cheers Mate ! Smile   
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Warren (Wazza)32030 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr 2009 at 8:32pm
Warren (Wazza)32030 View Drop Down
Bronze
Bronze


Joined: 15 Apr 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 2

Our family have owned an open Sea Nymph 14' 6" Gullwing from new, I would quite like to remove the Outboard well and extend the stern with a section of floor that followed the Hull shape annd a bracket for the Outboard. Has anyone modified a Gull Wing 14'6"??

 
Cheers,
 
Wazza.
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Huggybear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Apr 2009 at 4:15pm
Huggybear View Drop Down
Silver
Silver


Joined: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Tamaki Makaurau
Status: Offline
Points: 347
Why would you want to do that wazza? Sounds like alot of trouble to me, and you'd probably alter the sea-keeping qualities and planning characteristics of the boat. For eg, a chap I spoke to who had a Sea Nymph 14'6", said his boat ate a Sea Nymph V16 in a chop. He reckoned the 14'6" was the better boat by far. You'd be changing the boat hull if I read you rightly? It seems Frank Pelin got something very right in the 14'6" design. Changing that might bring on more -ves than +ves. Just my thoughts anyway. I'd leave it as it is. 
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote pure--lure Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Apr 2009 at 4:48pm
pure--lure View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Location: Hibiscus Coast
Status: Offline
Points: 3723
Man this is great Info I have a Sea Nymph but for the life of me cant find a Model Number or anything all it say is Sea Nymph on a metal badge on the back lol
http://www.facebook.com/groups/hibiscus.coast.fishing/
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote JerryHatrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Apr 2009 at 6:09pm
JerryHatrick View Drop Down
Silver
Silver
Avatar

Joined: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Hibiscus Coast
Status: Offline
Points: 111
Originally posted by keep on fishing keep on fishing wrote:

Man this is great Info I have a Sea Nymph but for the life of me cant find a Model Number or anything all it say is Sea Nymph on a metal badge on the back lol
 
Can you maybe put a pic or 2 up on the forum? Can try & help a bit with the ID process. BTW - what is the serial number on that metal plate? Must check, but off the cuff I think mine's something like 5602. 
 
I'm still struggling to find actual figures (weights, LOA, etc etc etc - wish I could unearth a "user manual" of sorts ... Wink) on my Sea Nymph Wasp, but have done some research and in the process have learnt some about the different models that were around, from the V13 thru to the 14.6 Wasp (& other 14-footers), 16ft Commanders & so on - haven't done too much yet on the later 604's & such - but they nice boats as well by the looks of it. 
 
Here's a pic of my Wasp if it may help?. The Gullwing etc looked vaguely similar, but had a different deck & "cabin" shape & also different stern area shape. Then there was the V146 - also similar, but with open cabin area & seat/control area moved forward into the open-topped cabin area - a bit of a bowrider almost?  
 
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Huggybear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 2009 at 12:00pm
Huggybear View Drop Down
Silver
Silver


Joined: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Tamaki Makaurau
Status: Offline
Points: 347
That's a nice looking boat JH. The LOA is 14'6" or 4.5m. Don't have details about the beam or weight, just that they have everything in proportion, because they're an awesome boat. The cabin version and the open-cockpit version are one and the same hull. More open-cockpit versions got produced. Tow it in to Ken at Gemini Marine, Henderson, if you want to know more. He used to build them many years ago. He surveyed mine and gave me heaps of info on it.
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote enforcer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 2009 at 12:54pm
enforcer View Drop Down
Silver
Silver
Avatar

Joined: 04 May 2005
Location: New Zealand
Status: Offline
Points: 125
Wasn't the wasp a 16' hull?
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Huggybear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 2009 at 4:04pm
Huggybear View Drop Down
Silver
Silver


Joined: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Tamaki Makaurau
Status: Offline
Points: 347
No, I believe the V16' hull version of the Wasp is a 'Hornet'. Both the V14'6" and the V16' Sea Nymph's are similar in hull design in that they are both gull-wing in the stern and have a similar chine and V up front but obviously the 16 is about 2 feet longer. I don't know whether that means the V16 has a much broader beam though.
 
Both lengths came out with a cabin version and an open-cockpit version. They are both awesome designs, coming from the pen of Frank Pelin. But I have heard a knowledgable chap - a coastguard instructor - who owned a 14'6" and who was out in some rough-stuff with another mate in a V16, say that the 14'6" outperformed the V16 in the big sea. Now I wouldn't know why that was but apparently they were in a large following sea at the time. You would think that the longer boat would be better. But he recknoned that this wasn't the case. Maybe the gap between the waves suited the 14'6" better? It would be interesting to hear others' views on this. Perhaps someone out there has owned both lengths of Sea Nymph and can tell us what they reckon??!!!Tongue 
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote JerryHatrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 2009 at 2:45pm
JerryHatrick View Drop Down
Silver
Silver
Avatar

Joined: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Hibiscus Coast
Status: Offline
Points: 111
Thanks Huggy - good info. Agree with the 16' version of the Wasp being called a Hornet, but I believe there was also a 16'  Ranger?
 
Appreciate the heads-up on Ken in Henderson - will definitely swing by there at some stage
 
Safe Seas!
 
JH
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote tas-tackle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 2009 at 3:13pm
tas-tackle View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 28 Apr 2007
Location: Cable Bay NZ
Status: Offline
Points: 3775
Jerry.. I also had a 16 footer and the 14.6 was the better boat.. hands down..!!!!   the ranger was NOT Gull Wing and I think you have the best small boat for that era in the "wasp"  , more versatile than the std edition of the 14.6  'sniff'.. Big%20smile  looks a nice tidy rig you have there..  ( Get yaself a 75 Honda 4/- on the butt when you update.. go just as well as the old 90 you have with half the economy )

http://www.tas-tackle.co.nz
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote JerryHatrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Apr 2009 at 2:28pm
JerryHatrick View Drop Down
Silver
Silver
Avatar

Joined: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Hibiscus Coast
Status: Offline
Points: 111
Mmm yea thanks fisher - that's the thought in the back of my mind too - the hull does what I need it to do for now & suits my mission, but I'm not always 110% comfortable with an oldish motor that has seen more than it's share of hard toil, so may well be a valid option at some stage to repower with something like what you suggest - a good 75HP 4-stroker ... like you say, much better economy, probably less hassles, in all likelihood as good in the relative power output stakes ... but a bit lighter (she comes on the plane easily enough now, but one does get the feeling that the back-end drags a bit if she's not under power) ...
 
If only the piggy bank was a bit fuller hey? Cry
 
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Huggybear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 2009 at 5:07pm
Huggybear View Drop Down
Silver
Silver


Joined: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Tamaki Makaurau
Status: Offline
Points: 347
If I was repowering I would go for an e-tec. At least a 70hp. I think a 70hp is good re power-to-weight ratio. Like fisher says, even a 4-stroke of some kind or other. I've got a 1999 2-stroke 70hp Johnson on mine with just over 80hrs (the previous owner used to troll on the central lakes using a 4hp aux, and just used the main engine to get out on the lake and back), so my outboard's still pretty low on the hrs and runs sweet.
 
I'd be interested to know what your fuel consumption is like JH. I've found I get around 28M (nautical miles) from a 25L tote. I don't think that's too bad. I'd like to know if the more power that you have might equate to better fuel economy given that you probably would be running at lower revs than me to achieve the same speed. I cruise at about 4000RPM, and am doing around 27MPH (18-20kn) at that RPM.
 
About the V16 Sea Nymph's. The V16 came out with 2 different cabin designs. Both were the same hulls (same chine, V, flare up-front), but one cabin design was very similar to the Wasp cabin design. The 'Wasp' cabin design came out on the later model V16 Hornets - as far as I know. 
 
Interesting to hear from fisher re the dif between the V16 and V 14'6". As I've said - and I am very biased - but I will say it again: the 14'6" Wasp is an utterly awesome little boat for its size. Most importantly, they are great sea boats and eat most others the same size or bigger.  
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote JerryHatrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 2009 at 8:33pm
JerryHatrick View Drop Down
Silver
Silver
Avatar

Joined: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Hibiscus Coast
Status: Offline
Points: 111
Hey Huggy
 
At the rate of available time Dead Thumbs%20Down & with the easy season changing fast it will take a while I guess, but I'll start keeping a bit of a log & report back what the fuel consumption looks like.  Only run about 1 1/2 x 22L tanks through in the two times that I've had her out so far, and at the time we were really just stuffing around in one bay area & getting used to her manners & so on, so I wasn't really concentrating too much on revs & speed, etc. and have no idea what distance we really covered, so I couldn't even begin to guess.
 
But - it will get there & I will let ya know.
 
Cheers
 
Geriatric
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote JerryHatrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Apr 2009 at 8:54pm
JerryHatrick View Drop Down
Silver
Silver
Avatar

Joined: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Hibiscus Coast
Status: Offline
Points: 111
I don't usually punt stuff & I have no vested interest in this, but just for curiosity's sake - I see there's a Ranger on TM going for a good reserve & also a Wasp at a very good buy now Wink 
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Huggybear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 2009 at 4:09pm
Huggybear View Drop Down
Silver
Silver


Joined: 15 Feb 2009
Location: Tamaki Makaurau
Status: Offline
Points: 347
Yes, keeping a log is a good way to go, because you can always refer back to it and see where you caught the fish at a certain time of year. But you can also see what distances you have travelled. I just measure my distances off the chart and get approximate distances. I generally cruise, as I said, at 4000RPM. Seems to be about the 'sweet-spot' for my outboard. I reckon it's quite economical for a 2-stroke.
 
Don't worry about the 'easy season' stuff. Winter fishing is heaps more exciting! Make sure you still get out in that nice-looking boat of yours in winter.
 
What actually made you go for the Wasp JH? Was it the price? Was it the best/tidiest boat you saw at that price? Did you want a cabin? Be interested to know.
 
Let us know when you start assessing your fuel economy, cruising speed/RPM etc. Like I said, I'd be real interested to see if there are any major differences due to the fact we have two different sized outboards on the same design of boat. I wonder whether the 90 would be more economical as it has more power, and because you'd be cruising at a lower RPM to achieve the same speed as me???? 
 
Cheerz     
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote JerryHatrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Apr 2009 at 9:25pm
JerryHatrick View Drop Down
Silver
Silver
Avatar

Joined: 07 Jan 2009
Location: Hibiscus Coast
Status: Offline
Points: 111
Sure thing Mate - not about to stay off the water too much just because it's kinda cold & wet out there ... days are just short & I see at the saltmine nowadays you've got to stick around & act extra interested, just in case your job's not quite 1200% profitable to the powers that be ... so time for boats & such looking a bit lean for the foreseeable future.
 
Yea - it was kinda interesting how it all came about. I knew what my budget would allow, and also had to find something with a reasonable compromise between my fishing activity and also taking the Missus & sprogs ( I may be 40+ "geriatric" by now, but started in that game kinda latish in life, so have 3 young ones) out on alternate trips for some general fun & ski-biscuit towing & whatnot to keep in the good books. Looked at the usual around 16' for around 10K $ stuff - Marlboroughs, a few Bonito Craft & 1 or 2 Sea Nymph Commanders ... Sea Nymph Wasp not even under contention really. Was just about to commit to a good Bonito when the seller decided he could get more and actually did have a better offer (at least that's what he wanted me to believe?), so he wanted to negotiate. I decided not to, and started looking again. Saw this one half by chance on TM for a reasonable asking price, decided to go & have a look seeing as it was local, even though it was smaller than the others & saw what I thought to be a good balance between sufficient space for 1 or 2 blokes to go fishing off the back & not fall over each other but offset with enough cabin space to take my better half & 3 young ones out & be able to get them under cover & out of the rain/sun/whatever if needs be on a longish day out etc etc etc. Reasonably good overall condition for age, no obvious hull damage, ski pole fitted, 3 totes, very good condition 2000 model Brooker multiroller trailer, newish screen & a virtually brand new canopy & clears & the guy chucked his fully-kitted tackle box, 3 rods & reels & some other general kit (I'd guess about $ 500 worth of all in all) in just because he had no more use for it . All fell into place immediately, and the seller was keen to let her go as his shift across the ditch was imminent. As it happened there were a few niggles around the motor which I picked up on & wanted sorted - seller didn't want to spend to have it fixed up first & promptly dropped his price by a tad more than the repair quote to sweeten the deal even more - that sealed it for me & I went for it blind without knowing much about the design & its reputation.
 
Have subsequently spent around the "discount" that I got on the motor repair & few odds & ends & nice-to-haves and have only heard good things about the Wasp hull & its history & design and the rest ... looks like it was a good call after all. Smile   Needs VHF & aerial as soon as budget allows (important, so the funds will be found) & I'd be keen to have a road cover - quote scared me a bit though. The rest is just usual neatening up & being pedantic/anal, so I will likely end up overspending on it - what the hell ...Big%20smile
 
Gut feel wants to make me agree on the motor issue - didn't feel to me like the 90 Yam was working hard at all with 2 adults & 3 kids on board, so should be relatively good on fuel use under normal light load conditions ...
 
Be keen to see a pic of yours for curiosity' sake if possible
 
Later
 
JH
 
Hey sorry for the novel - I guess I'm just happy the way it's turned out & your input has been a great comfort ...
Back to Top
Page  12>
Forum Jump
Forum Permissions View Drop Down


This page was generated in 0.258 seconds.

Fishing Reports Visit Reports

Saltwater Fishing Reports
Tauranga Fishing Report - 28/05/26

Tarakihi on the bite Trips are few and far between at this time of year,... Read More >

28 May 2026
Freshwater Fishing Reports
Canterbury Fishing Report - 28/05/26

Fresh and salt turning it on! It is not very often I get to say... Read More >

28 May 2026
Saltwater Fishing Reports
Bay of Islands Fishing Report - 28/05/26

Lures paying dividends We finally had a break in the SE winds that have been... Read More >

28 May 2026
Saltwater Fishing Reports
Manukau/West Coast Fishing Report - 28/05/26

Snapper and gurnard in the harbour The weather has finally taken a turn for the... Read More >

28 May 2026
Fishing bite times Fishing bite times

Major Bites

Minor Bites

Major Bites

Minor Bites