Has late '80's Yamaha 90 on it - seems to be heavy for the boat, but she runs well enough once woken up ...

 

Any info appreciated

 

Got an '89 90HP Yamaha 2stroker on it - old, but in "reasonable" nick. Having some niggles sorted, but the twice that I've had her out she went well with the 90 out back. Planes reasonably quickly & easily & handles Ok I think.

 

Now busy redoing the upholstery on the squabs & stuff, putting decent stainless rodholders on it & busy fabricating s/s brackets to hold a baitboard attached to the side of the ski-pole.  Then compass & fixed VHF & all that - got teh basics sorted ir flares & buouyancy aids & whatnot. Prob spending too much now on aesthetics, but she's going to look good afterwards I think. (well, hope).

 

Having said that I don't know them much, am quite pleased with it so far.

 

Thanks for input!

 

I have a Wasp as well. I have a 70hp on mine and it goes sweetly. The 90 would be good - you'd have some extra grunt there. But I spoke with a coastguard instructor who had a 90 on his Sea Nymph 14'6" and he reckoned that it was over-powered (he didn't have the Wasp cabin version, he had the open-cockpit version) and heavier than was needed. He said the flaws were mostly rectified by adding a hydrofoil to aid it up on to the plane and trim it out better. I believe he had a permatrim as he also had a Yammie. I have put a hydrofoil on mine (an SE300Sport)and it does get up on the plane quicker and prevents possible porpoising. There is some debate about the effectiveness of hydrofoils, but from what I've read and first-hand experience, I would say you may notice some real positive results if you chuck one on.  

 

I'll tell you a few great things about the boat mate. Awesome design - by Frank Pelin - a well known NZ boat designer and who has designed some great craft. Solid, stable and very sea-worthy in the rough chop. Their sea-worthiness is renowned. The Wasp is great because you can go out quite comfortably on overnight fishing trips. Mine is as warm as toast even in winter - and the cabin isn't even closed off! (My cabin is marine carpeted though). The cabin offers shelter from the elements, and is especially good if you have kids. My 5yr old son has, on most trips I have taken him out, gone up front and had a kip. The cabin offers dry storage for electronics, sleeping bags, warm clothing, etc. Awesome for the dusk-dawn fishing trips. I've gone out on an evening fish, slept overnight, and got up early the next morning. What great times I've had! I think the Wasp is one of the smallest runabouts that has such a roomy cabin. Some might say the cabin knocks off some cockpit space, but I don't think that's too true. For the boat size you've still got some room to move around. As I say, just remember that your 14'6" is only 2 feet longer than a 12' tinnie, but what a world of difference in every way!

 

Basically, if she's a sound boat and you have got your engine serviced, you'll get heaps of fun out of it. As for an aux outboard, I would say that a 4hp should do just fine. And don't worry too much about what you are spending on it. It's only natural to want to get a boat up to what you want it to be and adding safety equipment or getting it kitted out as you would like does cost money, but hey, it will make you safer and your time out on the water alot more enjoyable.  

 

Been wondering about a hydrofoil & may just take a chance on fitting one to see if it helps a bit - the 90 as you say has enough grunt to get her up, but does seem to be slightly heavy out back, so any improvement in trim / stability should be good. 

 

Will put some pics on the rig thread once she looks nice & everything that I want to do's done ...

 

Cheers Mate !    

 

Cheers,

 

Wazza.

 

Can you maybe put a pic or 2 up on the forum? Can try & help a bit with the ID process. BTW - what is the serial number on that metal plate? Must check, but off the cuff I think mine's something like 5602. 

 

I'm still struggling to find actual figures (weights, LOA, etc etc etc - wish I could unearth a "user manual" of sorts ... ) on my Sea Nymph Wasp, but have done some research and in the process have learnt some about the different models that were around, from the V13 thru to the 14.6 Wasp (& other 14-footers), 16ft Commanders & so on - haven't done too much yet on the later 604's & such - but they nice boats as well by the looks of it. 

 

Here's a pic of my Wasp if it may help?. The Gullwing etc looked vaguely similar, but had a different deck & "cabin" shape & also different stern area shape. Then there was the V146 - also similar, but with open cabin area & seat/control area moved forward into the open-topped cabin area - a bit of a bowrider almost?  

 

 

Both lengths came out with a cabin version and an open-cockpit version. They are both awesome designs, coming from the pen of Frank Pelin. But I have heard a knowledgable chap - a coastguard instructor - who owned a 14'6" and who was out in some rough-stuff with another mate in a V16, say that the 14'6" outperformed the V16 in the big sea. Now I wouldn't know why that was but apparently they were in a large following sea at the time. You would think that the longer boat would be better. But he recknoned that this wasn't the case. Maybe the gap between the waves suited the 14'6" better? It would be interesting to hear others' views on this. Perhaps someone out there has owned both lengths of Sea Nymph and can tell us what they reckon??!!! 

 

Appreciate the heads-up on Ken in Henderson - will definitely swing by there at some stage

 

Safe Seas!

 

JH

 

If only the piggy bank was a bit fuller hey?

 

 

I'd be interested to know what your fuel consumption is like JH. I've found I get around 28M (nautical miles) from a 25L tote. I don't think that's too bad. I'd like to know if the more power that you have might equate to better fuel economy given that you probably would be running at lower revs than me to achieve the same speed. I cruise at about 4000RPM, and am doing around 27MPH (18-20kn) at that RPM.

 

About the V16 Sea Nymph's. The V16 came out with 2 different cabin designs. Both were the same hulls (same chine, V, flare up-front), but one cabin design was very similar to the Wasp cabin design. The 'Wasp' cabin design came out on the later model V16 Hornets - as far as I know. 

 

Interesting to hear from fisher re the dif between the V16 and V 14'6". As I've said - and I am very biased - but I will say it again: the 14'6" Wasp is an utterly awesome little boat for its size. Most importantly, they are great sea boats and eat most others the same size or bigger.  

 

At the rate of available time   & with the easy season changing fast it will take a while I guess, but I'll start keeping a bit of a log & report back what the fuel consumption looks like.  Only run about 1 1/2 x 22L tanks through in the two times that I've had her out so far, and at the time we were really just stuffing around in one bay area & getting used to her manners & so on, so I wasn't really concentrating too much on revs & speed, etc. and have no idea what distance we really covered, so I couldn't even begin to guess.

 

But - it will get there & I will let ya know.

 

Cheers

 

Geriatric

 

Don't worry about the 'easy season' stuff. Winter fishing is heaps more exciting! Make sure you still get out in that nice-looking boat of yours in winter.

 

What actually made you go for the Wasp JH? Was it the price? Was it the best/tidiest boat you saw at that price? Did you want a cabin? Be interested to know.

 

Let us know when you start assessing your fuel economy, cruising speed/RPM etc. Like I said, I'd be real interested to see if there are any major differences due to the fact we have two different sized outboards on the same design of boat. I wonder whether the 90 would be more economical as it has more power, and because you'd be cruising at a lower RPM to achieve the same speed as me???? 

 

Cheerz     

 

Yea - it was kinda interesting how it all came about. I knew what my budget would allow, and also had to find something with a reasonable compromise between my fishing activity and also taking the Missus & sprogs ( I may be 40+ "geriatric" by now, but started in that game kinda latish in life, so have 3 young ones) out on alternate trips for some general fun & ski-biscuit towing & whatnot to keep in the good books. Looked at the usual around 16' for around 10K $ stuff - Marlboroughs, a few Bonito Craft & 1 or 2 Sea Nymph Commanders ... Sea Nymph Wasp not even under contention really. Was just about to commit to a good Bonito when the seller decided he could get more and actually did have a better offer (at least that's what he wanted me to believe?), so he wanted to negotiate. I decided not to, and started looking again. Saw this one half by chance on TM for a reasonable asking price, decided to go & have a look seeing as it was local, even though it was smaller than the others & saw what I thought to be a good balance between sufficient space for 1 or 2 blokes to go fishing off the back & not fall over each other but offset with enough cabin space to take my better half & 3 young ones out & be able to get them under cover & out of the rain/sun/whatever if needs be on a longish day out etc etc etc. Reasonably good overall condition for age, no obvious hull damage, ski pole fitted, 3 totes, very good condition 2000 model Brooker multiroller trailer, newish screen & a virtually brand new canopy & clears & the guy chucked his fully-kitted tackle box, 3 rods & reels & some other general kit (I'd guess about $ 500 worth of all in all) in just because he had no more use for it . All fell into place immediately, and the seller was keen to let her go as his shift across the ditch was imminent. As it happened there were a few niggles around the motor which I picked up on & wanted sorted - seller didn't want to spend to have it fixed up first & promptly dropped his price by a tad more than the repair quote to sweeten the deal even more - that sealed it for me & I went for it blind without knowing much about the design & its reputation.

 

Have subsequently spent around the "discount" that I got on the motor repair & few odds & ends & nice-to-haves and have only heard good things about the Wasp hull & its history & design and the rest ... looks like it was a good call after all.    Needs VHF & aerial as soon as budget allows (important, so the funds will be found) & I'd be keen to have a road cover - quote scared me a bit though. The rest is just usual neatening up & being pedantic/anal, so I will likely end up overspending on it - what the hell ...

 

Gut feel wants to make me agree on the motor issue - didn't feel to me like the 90 Yam was working hard at all with 2 adults & 3 kids on board, so should be relatively good on fuel use under normal light load conditions ...

 

Be keen to see a pic of yours for curiosity' sake if possible

 

Later

 

JH

 

Hey sorry for the novel - I guess I'm just happy the way it's turned out & your input has been a great comfort ...

 

I haven't got the right technology to show a pic of my boat yet, but may do in the future. Anyway, don't want you or others getting too jealous of my beauty!! She's gorgeous!

 

That VHF you're going to get will be a good addition, whether it's hand-held or fixed. The great thing about the cabin is that you've immediately got a dry place to fix any electronics. It's a real safety factor to have the VHF, especially if you take the whanau out - you can do trip reports. If you haven't done the course for the licence it only takes about 4hrs through coastguard. Well worth it.

 

All the best.  

 

Not sure what you mean by pod? POD the band? Yeah, I listen to them - good music .

 

Can you specify pod - sorry mate, I'm a bit thick.

 

See above in the thread re the "Hornet". They look exactly like a "Wasp", only the Wasp is 14'6" hull and the Hornet is 16' hull (or a "V16" hull with the wasp cabin). Confused?

 

Personally I would not alter the sea nymph like that or any other runabout for that matter - it would be messing with its DNA - its original design. Several reasons: it would (obviously) alter the boat length and potentially the sea-keeping performance of an already great boat (make it worse, that is); it would cost mega; it wouldn't create a great deal of extra space; the transom would need major strengthening to take the pod weight (with the outboard hanging off it) etc, etc.

 

Main question: Why waste time and money (especially money!) to change a perfectly good boat? If fishing space is minimal, which I accept it is in a Wasp (unless it's max 2 people), then it would be best spending the money on a bigger or more open cockpit boat with no cabin, so you'd have all the for'ard space for fishing too. But the cabin has its bonuses of offering comfortable sleeping on overnighters. My 1 cents anyway.  

I've recently bought a Sea Nymph wasp, looking at putting an Auxilliary on it, in case the Yamaha on it ever lets me down...

I'll probably go for a 5 or 8hp, I have bought a rise & fall bracket, but (looking at 2nd hand motors on trade me) wondering whether to buy a "long" or "short" shaft, to do the job and make life easier for that day when things go bad out there... 

I know there is a lot of knowledge and experience with the 14'6 hull on this forum-

 

5-8hp should be fine. Probably long shaft would be best depending on the height off the water of your bracket. But getting a 2nd hand aux off trademe might be more "unreliable" than your main yammy. I say get your main outboard going well. That's the most important part of your boat really.

fisher, because the pod is not the full width of the stern, I would doubt improved sea-handling characteristics. I think that the pod might tend to dig into the water on 'take-off' and as sbeehre said, and I think quite rightly, maybe that's why the batteries are up front - to add counterbalance weight due to the tendency of the rear to dig in? I would question why the boat warrants 2 batts. Is it because the motor is difficult to start because of it's age? Or is it for the balancing-off reason? Maybe both. Maybe the owner is a member of this site and can shed some light. I'm genuinely interested in the effects of the pod. Aesthetically it doesn't actually look that bad, like I said - it looks like a good job has been done - but I am interested in the boat dynamics now it's been added.

My partners dad has the same boat with a 75HP Johnston on it. Anyway, he uses it in Taupo and i'm trying to twist his arm to bring it down to Wellington for some fishing. Have you used it out at sea? Any good? He reckons it's not the best boat out there as it needs more weight up front? I think it will be good though he may need a new motor as his is old, though reliable. I was thinking of a Yammie 80 or 90HP. Any advice from you guys is welcomed

The boat is the same with the Cabin bit as per photo's on this thread

I recently brought my first boat, a 14.6 sea nymph. It didnt come with a motor so i went on trade me and got a 55hp Evinrude.

The Problem:

I tried to hook up the steering cable but theres no way it will fit, when i brought the motor the remote and cables came with it and the kind person gave me a steering arm because i told him i didnt have one.

My Question:

Can the existing steering cables be used or do i have to buy a new cable to coincide with the Evinrude motor?

Desperately needing help