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    Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 12:23pm
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Whats everyones experiences with these boats? Quite like the look of their 455 and 533 pontoon models. Anyone got one that can tell me how they go?
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cheap and nasty man iv looked at them yea na not for me all depends what ya wana spend and what kinda fising you going to do. look at the more common well knowen rigs dude like stabi or senator or kiwicraft etc
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agree with FA, dont go there Wink
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Definatly  ..DONT GO THERE..Thumbs DownThumbs Down .. As for experience more than most will ever have..
 
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Not wanting to bag a product really, but I wouldn't own one from what I have seen/heard from owners I know....
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Dont bag them..I have a 620 hardtop.Its a good boat,not the rolls royce of the tin boats but you pay for what you get,its value for money.Mines powered by a honda 4 stroke 115 ( about 8 litres an hour)   and it goes like hell.Its not to bad in the rough and it looks nice .Everyone has their likes and dislikes with any product. Look at all the bad write ups over motors ..Same thing applies 
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If you are keen go for a sea trial in one. That could be hard though, because I'm still waiting for a sea trial from 3 years ago. I got tired of waiting so bought a rig 2nd hand for the same money but much better brand of hull and motor.
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Mowerman, thats great economy.
 
I owned the same boat for four years, powered with a Suzuki 115 four. Used 16 litres an hour an cruise speed. It did use about 6 litres an hour trolling of rmarlin
 
In the four years I owned the boat my wife hated it more and more due to its terrible ride. She eventually refused to come out on it. Bought a new boat with fine entry and deep vee. My wife was amazed at the difference in ride.
 
The problem with the boat is not so much the shallow 17 degree vee, but the extremely broad shoulders it has at the front of the hull. There is just no give when it hits a wave. The boat basically stops.
In the large following sea, it was downright dangerous. Coming down the face of a wave it would steer anywhere it wanted to.
My advice is dont touch them. I did hundreds of hours in mine. There are much better alternatives out there for similar money
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Weren't the Scorpion pontoon boats a re-badged Reel Pontoon boat?

If they were, I wouldn't write them off quite so quickly. I've got a smaller 3.9m Reel and the ride is very good. 
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Yeah I have heard that. The pontoon boat I looked at the other day seemed to be quite well built. Is there any reason in particular that people are staying keep away?
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you can buy a lot better boat for the money man just look around dude spooner balck has a dodge reputation mna
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I agre e with you mowerman, I have had a Bluefin 620 from new for 5 years, with optimax 115. At the time it would have cost me 15K plus for the same size/ motor / extras. I knew it wasnt the top of the line but it tick anumber of boxes for me. In reflection, I have no regrets and it has served me well. I use it off the west coast where unlike the east coast you cant run and hide behind a island. I have done over 200 hours, without any issue, caught plenty of fish with my mates and returned home safely and generally comfortably. Every boat has its issues even extremes & surtees!! I enjoy this website and the discussions but I think there is a sense of elitism at times if you dont own the "in" boats
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 I don't know anything about them but I see they quote their length as LOA ( length overall) which is quite different from hull length so be aware of this if comparing with other boats that may be quoting hull length. My senator 560 is only a 5.4 metre hull. 
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Originally posted by brent262 brent262 wrote:

Whats everyones experiences with these boats? Quite like the look of their 455 and 533 pontoon models. Anyone got one that can tell me how they go?
Hi - I owned the 610 HT Scorpion for about 2 months and couldn't stand it. It wallowed through the waves and as another thread says above coming with the chop was dangerous. It would take off in any direction and it didn't matter where the T & T was set. Can't quote the 5m Scorpions but I took this one straight back to the dealer. As for the pontoon a friend of mine has got the 533 Scorpion pontoon and he quite likes it. He says it rides OK, predictable, easy to push along and light to tow. Was value for money at the time (about 32K new with 60hp Merc 4-5 years ago) but for a 5+ meter boat it is small, really squashed up inside and the finishing is quite honestly crap! Nothing is fully welded so there are heaps of spot welds through the boat inside and out-that's where the price diff is I guess. It would be however, a lot safer that the non-pontoon Scorpions
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i lookd at one after the surtees sold they were trying hard to sell it to me in morrinsvle but i looked at the workman ship and walked away my mate use to make there trailers and they were dodge to work for man STAY AWAY
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Whats the difference between bluefin and scorpion boats are the mde by the same place but just different branding? Anyone know?
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Bluefin cheaper build again. Or so I was told when I had dealings with Spencer''. These operators get others to build their boats dependant on what's required and how cheap they can get them made.'' Buyer Beware''.
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I was told by Black that the 610 scorpion and 620 bluefin are exactly the same hulls. The bluefin has a 10cm longer bowspit. I would agree with this having studied them.
I have no axe to grind with Sportcraft boats. They treated me fairly during the purchase and subsequent build, though they did hide a few things from me.
I am saying though that there are far better boat manufacturers out there for similar money
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Originally posted by Mark Mac Mark Mac wrote:

I was told by Black that the 610 scorpion and 620 bluefin are exactly the same hulls. The bluefin has a 10cm longer bowspit. I would agree with this having studied them.
I have no axe to grind with Sportcraft boats. They treated me fairly during the purchase and subsequent build, though they did hide a few things from me.
I am saying though that there are far better boat manufacturers out there for similar money



some good unbiased info in your posts MM - what boat did you end up with?
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Originally posted by Moki Marko Moki Marko wrote:

Originally posted by Mark Mac Mark Mac wrote:

I was told by Black that the 610 scorpion and 620 bluefin are exactly the same hulls. The bluefin has a 10cm longer bowspit. I would agree with this having studied them.
I have no axe to grind with Sportcraft boats. They treated me fairly during the purchase and subsequent build, though they did hide a few things from me.
I am saying though that there are far better boat manufacturers out there for similar money



some good unbiased info in your posts MM - what boat did you end up with?
 
After 20 years of owning bigger and bigger boats, (Up to $80, 000) I have finally realised that I'm a small boat kind of guy.
I purchased a senator 400 inshore last December. Powered with a Yamaha 40 2-stroke tiller steer. Spent 3 grand on fish finder though.
Still catches fish that a big boat catches. Its a bit wetter and colder, but I launch and retrieve anywhere on my own.
First pontoon boat I've owned, and I love it. Uses 7 litres of petrol an hour and takes 5 minutes to hose down at the end of the day. But I digress..................
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