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Hey guys,

most of my popper/stickbait chucking is done from the bricks, using the same gear I strayline with. As funds become available I'll get more appropriate gear but at this stage it's what I'm using

Given that I'm running 10kg and 15kg on my spools, what would be the best knot to attach the leader for casting poppers/sticks? Can tie an FG knot fairly well (using the rod technique that was posted in another thread ) or is the FG better suited to braid connections?

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Hey B, the FG (or even PR ) are for braid. Those knots make the braid loops bite into the leader sufarce to get the lock.

I guess You can use back to back uni for your mono to leader. Tie the know really tight and slim so it will go thru the guides easily.
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heh, 130lb uni knot is massive bro... want something a little more streamlined
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I tested it last night [FG 10kg onto 130lb] and it seemed to bite quite well, will give it test with the towbar and see where it breaks
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F### bro.. you dont need 130Lb, too heavy for casting. I reckon 80 - 100lb will be ok. I got a couple of traces of different weights if you want we can practice on the beach to see if uni works.
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Heh maybe you're right & I'm a paranoid rock fisher here I'll look at my trace supplies tonight. Getting stuffs organised for the windfest on Sunday, see you there?
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Originally posted by EditB EditB wrote:

I tested it last night [FG 10kg onto 130lb] and it seemed to bite quite well, will give it test with the towbar and see where it breaks


Let me know how it goes, first time I know FG for mono. But hey, you can always put some glue on it.
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Im actually free sunday.. but not sure if I should go or not. not many spots close to the water that you can hide from that kind of wind.
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Hey Brenton have a go at BA's no name knot... about half way down this thread;
 
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Cheers Al, will add that to the list of knots to try
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< ="application/x-relevantknowledge" id="pluginBm" ="true">Allbright...very tidy/slim and great for mono of different thickness...wouldnt use anything else.....number of wraps up the leader depends on line thickness...15 kg to 100 pound trace=I would go 5 or 6....pulls up real neat...burn tag end.function findLinks() { var anchorNodes=document.getElementsByTagName('a'); var leng=anchorNodes.length; var plugin=document.getElementById('pluginBm'); for(var ix = 0;ix0) { for(var ix=0;ixWatch "Rocking it Coromandel style with mavis" for a demo of the knot.
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Roddy Hays knot for mono to mono leaderWink great knot for all joins including braid to mono
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Have been using the Roddy Hays but don't like it when using 130lb trace. The knot just thumps through the guides
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To big a knot and it will just rip your ring out of the rod..been there done that :) 
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I would use either that knot of BA's in the link above (think he calls it a Fatboys) or a lethal knot as shown below. Both are very easy. And yeah 130lb is crazy. 100lb monos all good by me.


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All good info, only have 130lb mono and 80lb fluro at the mo. Will tie up the various knots and have a flick this weekend.
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Originally posted by EditB EditB wrote:

All good info, only have 130lb mono and 80lb fluro at the mo. Will tie up the various knots and have a flick this weekend.
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The 130lb is the remainder of the Black Magic 130lb I got in a Kingi livebaiting pack.
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Hey B, think you will be alright with 80lb flouro for casting. Im using a 100lb trace but the diameter is close to the 80lb BlckMgic flouro. And if you make ur trace not too long (2m?) so as not go thru all the giudes (like maybe first 3 guides form top)you will be fine.. but if you hook up a  big boy on rough country... might be a different storyOuch. Some more ecouragement: most of my stickbait hook ups on the rocks are just from 5 - 10m from the ledge. So casting jsut 30m out will be fine if the kings are there.
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Originally posted by Kenshin Kenshin wrote:

Hey B, think you will be alright with 80lb flouro for casting. Im using a 100lb trace but the diameter is close to the 80lb BlckMgic flouro. And if you make ur trace not too long (2m?) so as not go thru all the giudes (like maybe first 3 guides form top)you will be fine.. but if you hook up a  big boy on rough country... might be a different storyOuch. Some more ecouragement: most of my stickbait hook ups on the rocks are just from 5 - 10m from the ledge. So casting jsut 30m out will be fine if the kings are there.
 
Yep - in fact I've had more issues running out of water to work the lure than lack of distance casting from the rocks with the fish chasing them hard over that last 5-10 m. I nearly bashed one on the head last weekend in frustration at it not taking the bait and it still didn't bite.LOL
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