mono to leader knot
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Topic: mono to leader knot
Posted By: EditB
Subject: mono to leader knot
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 9:53am
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Hey guys, most of my popper/stickbait chucking is done from the bricks, using the same gear I strayline with. As funds become available I'll get more appropriate gear but at this stage it's what I'm using  Given that I'm running 10kg and 15kg on my spools, what would be the best knot to attach the leader for casting poppers/sticks? Can tie an FG knot fairly well (using the rod technique that was posted in another thread  ) or is the FG better suited to braid connections? Cheers B ------------- I do not lie about fishing, I willingly participate in a campaign of misinformation. |
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Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 1:08pm
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Hey B, the FG (or even PR ) are for braid. Those knots make the braid loops bite into the leader sufarce to get the lock. I guess You can use back to back uni for your mono to leader. Tie the know really tight and slim so it will go thru the guides easily. ------------- Be patient and calm – for no one can catch fish in anger. –Herbert Hoover |
Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 1:09pm
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heh, 130lb uni knot is massive bro... want something a little more streamlined ------------- I do not lie about fishing, I willingly participate in a campaign of misinformation. |
Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 1:10pm
I tested it last night [FG 10kg onto 130lb] and it seemed to bite quite well, will give it test with the towbar and see where it breaks 
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Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 1:14pm
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F### bro.. you dont need 130Lb, too heavy for casting. I reckon 80 - 100lb will be ok. I got a couple of traces of different weights if you want we can practice on the beach to see if uni works. ------------- Be patient and calm – for no one can catch fish in anger. –Herbert Hoover |
Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 1:16pm
Heh maybe you're right & I'm a paranoid rock fisher here  I'll look at my trace supplies tonight. Getting stuffs organised for the windfest on Sunday, see you there?
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Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 1:16pm
Let me know how it goes, first time I know FG for mono. But hey, you can always put some glue on it. ------------- Be patient and calm – for no one can catch fish in anger. –Herbert Hoover |
EditB wrote:Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 1:18pm
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Im actually free sunday.. but not sure if I should go or not. not many spots close to the water that you can hide from that kind of wind.
------------- Be patient and calm – for no one can catch fish in anger. –Herbert Hoover |
Posted By: Catchelot
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 1:28pm
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Hey Brenton have a go at BA's no name knot... about half way down this thread;
http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/game-fishing-jigging-knots_topic67550.html - http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/game-fishing-jigging-knots_topic67550.html ------------- "The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever." - Jacques Cousteau |
Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 1:54pm
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Cheers Al, will add that to the list of knots to try
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 2:37pm
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< ="application/x-relevantknowledge" id="pluginBm" ="true">Allbright...very tidy/slim and great for mono of different thickness...wouldnt use anything else.....number of wraps up the leader depends on line thickness...15 kg to 100 pound trace=I would go 5 or 6....pulls up real neat...burn tag end.function findLinks() { var anchorNodes=document.getElementsByTagName('a'); var leng=anchorNodes.length; var plugin=document.getElementById('pluginBm'); for(var ix = 0;ix ------------- Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens. |
Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 3:22pm
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Roddy Hays knot for mono to mono leader great knot for all joins including braid to mono
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Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 3:54pm
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Have been using the Roddy Hays but don't like it when using 130lb trace. The knot just thumps through the guides ------------- I do not lie about fishing, I willingly participate in a campaign of misinformation. |
Posted By: Jet_ski_fisher
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 4:00pm
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To big a knot and it will just rip your ring out of the rod..been there done that :) ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">  MH... Catch measure release...<*))))< |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 4:26pm
I would use either that knot of BA's in the link above (think he calls it a Fatboys) or a lethal knot as shown below. Both are very easy. And yeah 130lb is crazy. 100lb monos all good by me. ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 4:44pm
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All good info, only have 130lb mono and 80lb fluro at the mo. Will tie up the various knots and have a flick this weekend.
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Posted By: laidbackdood
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 4:52pm
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Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 4:56pm
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The 130lb is the remainder of the Black Magic 130lb I got in a Kingi livebaiting pack.
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Posted By: Kenshin
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 5:23pm
Hey B, think you will be alright with 80lb flouro for casting. Im using a 100lb trace but the diameter is close to the 80lb BlckMgic flouro. And if you make ur trace not too long (2m?) so as not go thru all the giudes (like maybe first 3 guides form top)you will be fine.. but if you hook up a big boy on rough country... might be a different story . Some more ecouragement: most of my stickbait hook ups on the rocks are just from 5 - 10m from the ledge. So casting jsut 30m out will be fine if the kings are there.------------- Be patient and calm – for no one can catch fish in anger. –Herbert Hoover |
Posted By: Aaron32987
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 6:03pm
Yep - in fact I've had more issues running out of water to work the lure than lack of distance casting from the rocks with the fish chasing them hard over that last 5-10 m. I nearly bashed one on the head last weekend in frustration at it not taking the bait and it still didn't bite.
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Posted By: kaveman
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 9:26pm
keep knot outside of guides, ie shorter trace ------------- www.kavemantackle.co.nz
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Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2012 at 11:32pm
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Sat down & tied 15kg>130lb mono & 15kg>80lb fluro in FG, lethal & fatboy knots tonight. FG was slimmer than fatboy, lethal was fattest. FG was the longest knot in length & time to tie, then fatboy with lethal being the shortest in both. I think that a uni style finish (like at the end of a bimini) would be a better finish for the mainline on the FG with mono than the half hitch sequence on the FG with braid. But that's just based on a couple of quick tie-ups and how well my knots worked on both versions If I was going to pre-tie I'd probably do a FG. If I had to retie in the heat of the moment I'd tie a fatboy with added uni finish. Tomorrow I'll try the Roddy Hayes knot again, just for interest, but fishing off the rocks I like a little more safety length in my leader therefore it has to pass through the guides when I'm casting. ------------- I do not lie about fishing, I willingly participate in a campaign of misinformation. |