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Originally posted by of2fsh of2fsh wrote:

salt ice is made with very little salt ,its made from fresh water with salt added to make it hygenic,do a taste test then match it at home with fresh water and table salt..i reckon its about 1 to 2 teaspoons per bucket of water ... way less that sea water
 
Geez mate ... reckon you have openned a whole new can of worms
if what you say is correct & have no reason to doubt it is, but the jury
could be out for quite some time.
 
After all it is called salt ice not seawater ice.
 
If there is so little additional salt compared to freshwater then surely
there can be very little difference in frozen temperature.
 
Of more concern is that if it is largely freshwater then by adding it to seawater
to form a slurry then are effectively mixing a heap of freshwater to the seawater
which we are told is a no no.
 
Until the jury returns reckon I will stick to frozen bottles of seawater & seawater
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Here is a first as I agree with Of2fish that there is bugger all salt in commercial salt ice compared to seawater
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Flake Salt Ice: is made from filtrated & uv treated  potable water with salt added. 
Salt Ice has a slower melting rate than party ice, and as such is our customers preferred option for keeping their product fresh.....

interesting of2fsh, best we collect our own saltwater from the sea then....
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Originally posted by Rob Optimist Rob Optimist wrote:

I grab a couple of either 10 or 20 litre pails with lids and fill them out at sea and put them in the freezer when I'm home. When I get a chance (and if I'm lucky) I talk my son into tipping out the blocks, smashing them up with a hammer and bagging them up. Its surprising how may bags you get and it works good...........only problem is good son is going overseas so will have to do it myself soon.
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$4.50 for some salt ice at the garage seems easier to me Tongue
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No suppliers of salt ice in the South Island so will continue to make my own Clap
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Was reading about how old fashion ice cream makers lowered the temp of the ice cream below the  ordinary freezing point.They add a mixture of rock salt, ice and water  packed in a bucket around the ice cream mix, which can lower the temp to down to maximum of -21c.Thought that was quite cool. The main point being few water molicules reach the surface  in a given time ,so water freezes more slowly.If you cant buy salt ice in the sth is    go to one of the fishing factories if you have one in town and ask for some ,may be able to help.Ie nelson chch,westport etc

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Originally posted by of2fsh of2fsh wrote:

salt ice is made with very little salt ,its made from fresh water with salt added to make it hygenic,do a taste test then match it at home with fresh water and table salt..i reckon its about 1 to 2 teaspoons per bucket of water ... way less that sea water

Having given salt ice the taste test... it sure ain't seawater. 

Think I might start making my own seawater ice and see how it compares to salt ice. At $5 a bag, that's money I'd rather put into tackle.
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no where to get salt ice in wellington.... (that i know of)
"size doesnt matter" tell that to the fisheries!
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I've seen it at hamils Jordon. Didn't look at the price but alot more expensive than seawater. I think I need a bigger freezer...
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Didn't know about the amount of Salt in it though just assumed like most that it was the equiv of sea water. Best I buy one and evaporate it here in the sunny North (tui) and the same amount of sea water and see what's left in each eh. 
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Yup fill a bucket with sea water, then when I get home put it in butter tubs and freeze it.

Ok you could argue that ice ain't expensive but hey it all adds up at the end of the day 
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After reading this thread this morning and doing a bit of research I have raided the recycling bin and secured x 5 1.25L bottles, in each of these I have placed 2 desert spoons of salt, filled with water and these now sit in the freezer awaiting the test.
Adding the salt lowers the freezing point.
In hind sight I should have also placed in there at the same time a bottle of water without salt to see how long that took to freeze / defrost - never mind
 
Rather have the $5 a bag in my back pocket as usually consume 2 or 3 of these on each trip.
That = a lot of fuel each year
 
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Still no substitute for a good flake ice slurry,worth spending a few dollars on ice I reckon...try this next time your out,put 5 or 10 kgs of salt ice in the Icey tek,fill with salt water from the ocean till its a slurry with more ice than water,put your fish in ,when u get home fillet the fish then wash the fillets in the slurry till clean,put them in the fridge for a hour or so then strait in the pan,don't use any fresh water too wash wash the fillets..you will find the fillets taste superb
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Originally posted by jordanM jordanM wrote:

no where to get salt ice in wellington.... (that i know of)
mobil paremata sell salt flake ice. check pete lamb as well.
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Originally posted by of2fsh of2fsh wrote:

Still no substitute for a good flake ice slurry,worth spending a few dollars on ice I reckon...try this next time your out,put 5 or 10 kgs of salt ice in the Icey tek,fill with salt water from the ocean till its a slurry with more ice than water,put your fish in ,when u get home fillet the fish then wash the fillets in the slurry till clean,put them in the fridge for a hour or so then strait in the pan,don't use any fresh water too wash wash the fillets..you will find the fillets taste superb
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Interesting point of2fish, its like swimming in a salt water pool, it is salt water but it aint sea water.
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Originally posted by of2fsh of2fsh wrote:

Still no substitute for a good flake ice slurry,worth spending a few dollars on ice I reckon...try this next time your out,put 5 or 10 kgs of salt ice in the Icey tek,fill with salt water from the ocean till its a slurry with more ice than water,put your fish in ,when u get home fillet the fish then wash the fillets in the slurry till clean,put them in the fridge for a hour or so then strait in the pan,don't use any fresh water too wash wash the fillets..you will find the fillets taste superb
 
Could you please explain why that method should be preferable to
using frozen containers of seawater to chill seawater .... strikes me
the latter process is far more logical, not to mention cheaper & more
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Bazza, by using flake ice slurry you chill the water down as low as -1 deg,using bottles and coolie pads etc you won't,fish that aren't at a very low temp will start to deteriorate due to bacteria etc,every fish added to the mix will raise the temp,with a slurry it will hold a lower temp and return to that temp quicker if a fish is added... It's personal preference really,at the moment I'm taking at least 10kgs of salt ice for a 115 Icey tek.pointless taking fish to eat if they are going to slowly cook in warm water?..take a thermometer with you next time your out and check for yourself,all those commercial guys can't be wrong
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