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Cool vid marx, where were you fishing in that one?
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Originally posted by PoppinTonga PoppinTonga wrote:

One issue i have seen with many of these 2 piece rods is that people do not seat the rod all the way down in the butt section.  They can be real tight.  I had to wax my rod Tongue to get it to go all the way in.  (this is getting a bit risqué Embarrassed )  With out the wax, they just would not fully seat.  I have seen many people using their rods only about 1/2 way in.  Can anyone tell if the rod is seated properly?





My 2 piece Offshore Illusion Popstick comes nowhere near tightening up together, it's about half an inch out. Don't think lube is gonna get it any further. Retailer told me it's all good so long as you push down hard with a twist-lock, that is; eyes not aligned with reel seat when pushing in and twisting to line up as it tightens. But, you have got me all concerned now.
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I was the same fish i,I had a rod until last weekend that ended up always going in until it was half and inch or so from being "fully" seated.
Wether it was a cold day or what I am unsure but a little bit of rod wax like normal and for some reason it slid all the way home - weird.
I am really careful with it too,no forcing it together - it came apart ok aswell.
 
I had alway thought it was to allow for wear etc...but this rod has not been high use in fact is new and on its 10th or so mating - it has me stumped.
 
Either that or I am stronger..LOL
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I got a 2pc Popper stick about a year ago that is not coming thru the joint fully. It was a prototype from a well known brand. Put wax on it and it went thru fully. Until one day I noticed even going down full, the but section somehow lost its tightness and I can easily pull the top part. 

Didnt mind it until one day I casted out and the top part flew away with the lure. Shocked 
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Rod wax = foreplay... Nothing like going deep Ay Falco
 
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So you can actually buy specific rod wax for this purpose??
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I have spoken to a couple of rod builders (Sean at Just Fishing, Graeme Patterson at Synit) and they have indicated that when the male ferrule doesnt go all the way in it is to allow for wear, so its not something to be alarmed about..... it does look a little bit weird though when their is binding on either end and it doesnt seem meet but there is a space between them, unlike rod joins that are 50/50 in the middle.
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Originally posted by fish i fish i wrote:

So you can actually buy specific rod wax for this purpose??
Yes,
I used to use candle wax,it also keeps the salt water out of the join,(potential wear from crystals?)
and then I just had to by some chapstick type "SMITH Ferrulle wax" LOL
It is a little softer than ordinary candle wax,but probably just a softer blend of the same stuff.
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The Ferrule wax is a must have in the tropics as you have the opposite to Falco's problem, some of the rods are even 'sanded' so only 10mm of the male sleeve sticks out of the handle as often recommended, the wax certainly helps when pulling the rods apart as well, allthough I noticed no problem in the 'cool' Mt Maunganui weather last week Big smile. Cleaning the boat on Monday morning in 3deg was funShocked.
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Yeh I've had some difficulty pulling the 2 parts together and sometime even more difficulty getting them out. Apparently you shouldn't twist the rod to manoeuvre it in.

I sanded the blank bank (lightly!) with 2000 grit and use dry glide, which is silicon based I think. Comes out of a spray can.
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Originally posted by Nomis Nomis wrote:

Cool vid marx, where were you fishing in that one?


Cheers mate, just out of ngunguru / tutukaka.
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Oh ok. Mine is not tight at all, just comes to a stop and is easily tightened and comes apart just as easily. So, not so concerned I guess. Was thinking temp may have been an issue as another two piece I have which is usually sweet to join up tight and snug and come apart has been a biaatch as of late. Will see what my engineer supply wizards can prescribe me tomorrow before I go down the track of 'fishing' branded lube. Thanks community,
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I'd be more pissed at losing the fish then breaking a rod, closely followed by the camera mans annoying voice.

Looked to me as though the angler was in a bad position, jammed in the anchor well with the bow rail preventing him dropping the rod tip lower to counter the fish plunging under the boat. Probably should have been up on the bow with someone spotting him.

Maybe a Calstar grafighter 700XH would have saved the situation?
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