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Well done Deane, look forward to full reportWink was  weather was a bit better than original forcasts?
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Question... instead of changing the hooks on the lures, why not change the lures to suit the hooks. from what i can see and hear, the lures are designed for trebles, and not for doubles or singles.. redesign the lures to run doubles and singles,make new lures ..make some lures singles/doubles and leave the rest as they are to be fished where ever :)
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Originally posted by kaveman kaveman wrote:

Well done Deane, look forward to full reportWink was  weather was a bit better than original forcasts?
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How is a barbless treble more dangerous than a single with a barb?Confused

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Originally posted by Elpescador Elpescador wrote:

How is a barbless treble more dangerous than a single with a barb?Confused

Exactly what i said mate.........Dont think they are thinking straight..Confused
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barb or no barb still guna hurt like mad, id rather two points than 6....
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You know those evil looking spikes that camels eat in Morroco? I had one go right in my ankle about an inch and half and it hurt like **** but i pulled it straight out.....Glad it didnt have a barb on itBig smile....had me tetanus before i went(19 years old)......A barb is going to make a nice little mess on the way out whatever hook its onOuch.....plus wearing it for a while will add to the fun.
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The way I see this is that if a charter boat makes a call that trebles are banned it will be for a good reason, safety is paramount when at sea for multi day trips in offshore locations and at all times so we need to respect this and just get on with the sport we all enjoy.
I personally dont like treble hooks as they are a bit harder to remove from fish but will still let anglers use them as I do understand that some lures do work better with trebles.
To give everyone advice on how I deal with fish when they come to the boat is I lip gaff the fish and lift the fish so the lips are flush with the boats gunnels then proceed to remove the lure and hooks at this point, then once the lure has been removed if we want to release the fish it slides back into the water or we want to get a few snaps I will slid it into the anglers arms from there, at no point I think should a fish be brought into the boat with a lure still in its mouth, its just asking for trouble.

Now to the top water pro fishntips, you have made a few big calls mate, on the road to starting to correct you on your very poor judgment calls, first the photo of me holding the kingfish with RAL in its mouth, it is 100% legit, that was the first fish taken on that lure and the photo was taken by a good client of mine.
your little digs at Sam are BS, you dont have a clue at how much time has been put into R&D on the 100 Haku and other RAL lures and saying Sam is into glory hunting?? come on
you statement that lures with singles or Baker rigs will catch fish when the bite is hot and not when the fishing is slow is a testament to how little time you have actual spent on the water fishing 
to quote you again "Sam will point to angler skill and action rather the design of his baits. Good floating lures can be  notoriously difficult to swim. These sinking lure were not, they simply didn't swim right at all, they just sunk and bogged out on an angle." there is always a RAL lure in the mix when we are fishing top water, I have loads of clients that are on my boat to give top water a go and you mite be surprised to know that they catch fish with the 100gm Haku with very little experience, maybe dont blame the lure for not catching fish it could be your lack of knowledge on how to find them.
fishntip do you really think I would use something that does not work when I have paying clients on the boat expecting to catch good fish and enjoy what I thing is the best way to target Kingfish?? and do you think Tony would do the same??
I would like to see some of your great catches of top water Kingys or any other fish???
now back to the topic of banning trebles.          
 
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Seems  alot of people have missed the point Ben, argument for arguments sake perhaps?
I got the confirmation I needed on the 2nd post. Still had a great trip with the restrictions in place and provided some feedback on what worked and didn't work with the lures that I fish regularly.
When I return down that way again I'll be better prepared, maybe with different lures, maybe not.
Charter businesses can apply what ever rules they feel necessary, after all it's their business.
Hopefully it has highlighted the rule to others planning a trip down there, as it was only by chance I had found out before I got there, so I prepared as best I could with the limited time I had.
Surely the only constructive direction for this thread to take is for people to share their success / or failure of different hook combinations with lures that are otherwise designed to swim trebles, or as someone pointed out with the Nambas, effective lures that swim best with singles.
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A chart or list of what lures work with what singles would be absolutely valuable info for anyone who does topwater
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Going to experiment some time with what i have done here...will try on all sorts of stickbaits....top pics are 9/0 inline with size 11mm splits and the bottom are 8/0 with 10mm splits........the 9/0 will go on the belly...8/0 on the tail......as you can see one has a lumo tube on it and the other has two tubes of heat shrink............I was thinking of testing in the local pond but i might get some strange look from the locals as well as the ducksLOL.......will let you know how it goes but its no harm in trying.....If this sucks...I will try squirts next.                                                                                                  

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