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Hey Harry just had a look at Ocean Mark snaps but not used them before so dunno.
From above comments I might tie hard to the lure first have a few casts see what the action looks like in that mode then maybe try a solid/split ring setup. See how much difference it makes!
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Looping through twice with a uni seems to be popular but has anyone actually tested it? Every time I tried it was weaker than going through once. I like a San diego jam knot once through tied snug with a v.short piece of chaff tube. It's easier to tie, stronger and neater than most other terminal knots
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Originally posted by JoshW JoshW wrote:

Looping through twice with a uni seems to be popular but has anyone actually tested it? Every time I tried it was weaker than going through once. I like a San diego jam knot once through tied snug with a v.short piece of chaff tube. It's easier to tie, stronger and neater than most other terminal knots
 
Sometimes the Uni when looped twice won't sit nice, but if you work it you can get it sitting real nice. I haven't found any difference in knot strength... I do find myself using knots that loop twice or three times now, Jansik Special or Worlds Fair Knot are good knots that use multiple loops, the Worlds Fair is nice and compact.
 
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Sweet, thats worlds fair is different. yea I did some testing a while back ( methods were pretty crude) but it seemed the twice through uni (sitting right) would tighten up on itself and basically pull itself apart right at the centre wrap around the eye, wasn't such an issue with single through or with other twice through knots that don't tighten on themselves; chain, bimini, benjanmin etc...
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In the past I just cut off the grommet from a solid ring. Split ring through the grommet and uni onto grommet. I machined the grommet down slightly so it would fit through the top guide so I could keep the leader the length I wanted and save on retying all the time when packing down gear and washing down.

But yeah those super sensitive stickbaits will swim easier when tied straight to. If so, I'd go a small chain knot as well as uni will slice through itself with enough drag and the super supple casting leader won't be the best on any chaffage on the connection.
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Originally posted by ReelAppealLures ReelAppealLures wrote:

Originally posted by JoshW JoshW wrote:

Looping through twice with a uni seems to be popular but has anyone actually tested it? Every time I tried it was weaker than going through once. I like a San diego jam knot once through tied snug with a v.short piece of chaff tube. It's easier to tie, stronger and neater than most other terminal knots
 
Sometimes the Uni when looped twice won't sit nice, but if you work it you can get it sitting real nice. I haven't found any difference in knot strength... I do find myself using knots that loop twice or three times now, Jansik Special or Worlds Fair Knot are good knots that use multiple loops, the Worlds Fair is nice and compact.
 
I wonder if a bog gob of spit might help the line close up smoothly when going through twice sam?
I would have thought all the line would slip into place?
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i now use a miller knot to a size 6 ocean snap, the miller knot is so strong!

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definitely make sure the lure is connected somehow to the trace.

it doesn't cast or come back to you when you turn the handle otherwise.
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Hey Sid ur input will no doubt prove invaluable. Haha on ya mate!!
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Originally posted by laidbackdood laidbackdood wrote:

I have seen arron fish carpenters of all sizes with his carpenter rod and stella 18000 and he ties direct and he gets them to swim really nice(esp the jack mac one)..Mind you he is a self confessed addicted casterLOL.That boy can cast all day long and be on another planet!!!!!...


when you fish landbased most of the time you get a LOT of casting practice cos there ain't a lot of fish turning up. Many many days of casting all day without a sign. Hones the technique...
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