Yea guys some good stuff here regards baits etc . orions, Adhek gobys, Tailwalk gunz,Uluas, have all worked well lately for us.Leader I use 100lb berkley fluro with sebeile knot no issues with slippage i take a piece of sandpaper and just pull through a couple inches of leader once or twice to the area i tie the knot takes shine off but dosent hurt leader and gives better grip for knot. Have had more luck on sinking baits as opposed to floating dont know how others find them but would be keen to hear. Pe5 braid but am going to give the Jerry Brown Blue a go the Aussie boys we have just had out fishing really rate the stuff. KEEP A Lookout for Stick baits and poppers under the name ANGEL FREAK. one of the lads from Aussie makes them and we caught some nice fish on them should be available soon will try and find contact to post.

Yes i have to agree it can be hard to tie on a $200 lure and throw it at a fish that is potentially going to reef you. But if i have already invested in the fuel, boat costs, tackle costs and of course the most important investment my time into going out then i am going to do whatever it takes to give myself an edge. On some days you dont need to be have the most expensive lure out there but when things toughen up i can assure it is the quality lures which catch the most fish and this is a consistent pattern i have noticed over a while now.

Saw one site in the States that had carpenters for USD$179-95. Convert that to NZD!! And they were all sold out as well.

(erebro wrote: Surly theres cheap ones made by Chinese children that will do the job??? Theres no way I'd spend that much on a single lure... rich mans game.