makka wrote: While you are getting some Tasline from busted, grab some of the Busted 80's and 3&4oz GT icecreams

The Tamure Kid wrote: makka wrote: While you are getting some Tasline from busted, grab some of the Busted 80's and 3&4oz GT icecreams Interesting Makka. What's the story with those icecreams? Good on kingies from the shore, just cast and retrieve erratically? I'd kind of promised no more spending on lures until I catch some kingies with the ones I've got already. But if they are X factor lures, I'm tempted!!

makka wrote: All the ones I have came pre-rigged with assists on them

So what was the end amount, landed it cost you in NZD?
Just curious. Cheers.

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The Tamure Kid wrote: No worries, Fishy. NZ$181 landed from the US via YouShop. The US seller offered free shipping within the US.  I just did another search. Go Fish in Takapuna has the best local price ($260), a lot lower than Marine Deals ($330) which I did my original calculations off. Rod & Reel is another $10 higher than Marine Deals.

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That's ridiculously good buying. Having read the Alan Hawk piece on them and had a fondle of one in my local fishing shop I can't believe how cheap they are. I would put them head-to-head with the Spheros and Saragosa to be honest.

Quietly waiting for the Okuma Metaloid Spin reels to show up in meaningful quantities as well, I think they will give the upper-mid-range a bit of a shake up but the BG has stolen a fair bit of the thunder there.

EDIT: Argghhhhh why does the forum keep completely borking my posts?????

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The Tamure Kid wrote: No worries, Fishy. NZ$181 landed from the US via YouShop. The US seller offered free shipping within the US.  I just did another search. Go Fish in Takapuna has the best local price ($260), a lot lower than Marine Deals ($330) which I did my original calculations off. Rod & Reel is another $10 higher than Marine Deals.

Good stuff, yeah that's not a bad price. Hopefully you ge a king on it soon!

I definitely had the Saragosa 8000 on my radar, Fishy. Alan Hawk really rates that range. But if I was going to spend on a point of difference, I wanted something considerably faster than my Stradic and the BG fitted the bill - as long as it stacked up overall.

The Tamure Kid wrote: I definitely had the Saragosa 8000 on my radar, Fishy. Alan Hawk really rates that range. But if I was going to spend on a point of difference, I wanted something considerably faster than my Stradic and the BG fitted the bill - as long as it stacked up overall. I'm not a Hawk nut, slavishy following what he says as the final say, but I certainly find his overall assessments interesting - particularly when he destroys a few myths, points out so called 'upgrades' or impressive sounding features are just bunkum etc.  He really rates the Quantum Cabo in the big sizes (see his best lists), again a lot cheaper in the US than here. I'm not very familiar with that brand. But again, he was talking much bigger reels than I need. From memory, I think he isn't a fan of the Azores, which got a lot of marketing hype in the US. Ditto the big Penn Clash. It'll be interesting to see when he reviews the new Penn Slammer III.

Yeah definitely a lot easier with a faster retrieve if you are using it just for topwater, would say shimano probably does it intentionally as to not confict too much with the twinpower & stella 14/18/20k sales.

Yeah Alan does a good job with his reviews, same thing though i don't take everything in his reviews as gospel though. He tends to concentrate more on the mechanical side than fishability side, and obviously i get they fall hand in hand to an extent.
99% of the time he is spot on but has been a couple of reviews/comments i find funny though from him, and has been mentioned by others online.

Just with the Azores for example, he said he won't do a review because it is just the same as the okuma v system reels, which yes some parts are, body rotor etc, but the Azores has carbon drag washers vs the felt of the v system and a few other differences which were his only gripes with the earlier v system reels', so what's so bad about them then? retailing at the moment in a lot of shops sub $200 NZD which at that price point there isn't much that competes, $100 more there is, but not at $180-190 NZD retail.


Another example that springs to mind were the comments he made about the shimano twin power sw, basically saying it is just a over priced saragosa sw and is no difference besides cosmetics and internally it is closer to the gosa than stella.... Which isn't true though when you open them up, the twin power uses a very similar gearing setup to the stella, much different to the saragosa/ spheros type setup. The drag is also alot different as is most of the reel. Others have gone into detail about this on various forums for anyone interested.

Ig it helps i just bought a biomaster 6000 from digitaka for $303 landed epic little big reel perfect for harbor kings. Just need a bloody rod now