The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums : Daiwa BG for Hauraki top water? https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ Sat, 06 Jun 2026 12:38:48 +0000 Mon, 28 Nov 2016 20:46:29 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.01 360 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=122101 <![CDATA[The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[Daiwa BG for Hauraki top water? : Ig it helps i just bought a biomaster...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122101&PID=1667358&title=daiwa-bg-for-hauraki-top-water#1667358 Author: spin king
Subject: 122101
Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 8:46pm

Ig it helps i just bought a biomaster 6000 from digitaka for $303 landed epic little big reel perfect for harbor kings. Just need a bloody rod now ]]> Mon, 28 Nov 2016 20:46:29 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122101&PID=1667358&title=daiwa-bg-for-hauraki-top-water#1667358 <![CDATA[Daiwa BG for Hauraki top water? : I&#039;ve had a play with a sample...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122101&PID=1667336&title=daiwa-bg-for-hauraki-top-water#1667336 Author: Fishy11
Subject: 122101
Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 7:30pm


[/QUOTE]
I've had a play with a sample Metaloid and unless I'm fairly well mistaken they're a somewhat different reel. Stainless steel gears for a start. Body, spool and rotor look extremely similar though.[/QUOTE]

Yeahnot saying there aren't differences, but pretty sure it is based of theAzores, 90% or more of it is the same reel from what i've seen. Spoollooks different with holes etc and gearing may be different, Okuma saysit is but i'd be inclined to wait and see if it is when someone opensone up and compares the two. Either way any improvemnts are good sodoesn't really matter. Still an alright reel for the price.

]]> Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:30:11 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122101&PID=1667336&title=daiwa-bg-for-hauraki-top-water#1667336 <![CDATA[Daiwa BG for Hauraki top water? : The Tamure Kid wrote:I definitely...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122101&PID=1667331&title=daiwa-bg-for-hauraki-top-water#1667331 Author: Fishy11
Subject: 122101
Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 7:19pm

Originally posted by The Tamure Kid The Tamure Kid wrote:

I definitely had the Saragosa 8000 on my radar, Fishy. Alan Hawk really rates that range. But if I was going to spend on a point of difference, I wanted something considerably faster than my Stradic and the BG fitted the bill - as long as it stacked up overall.

I'm not a Hawk nut, slavishy following what he says as the final say, but I certainly find his overall assessments interesting - particularly when he destroys a few myths, points out so called 'upgrades' or impressive sounding features are just bunkum etc. 

He really rates the Quantum Cabo in the big sizes (see his best lists), again a lot cheaper in the US than here. I'm not very familiar with that brand. But again, he was talking much bigger reels than I need.
From memory, I think he isn't a fan of the Azores, which got a lot of marketing hype in the US. Ditto the big Penn Clash. It'll be interesting to see when he reviews the new Penn Slammer III.


Yeah definitely a lot easier with a faster retrieve if you are using it just for topwater, would say shimano probably does it intentionally as to not confict too much with the twinpower & stella 14/18/20k sales.

Yeah Alan does a good job with his reviews, same thing though i don't take everything in his reviews as gospel though. He tends to concentrate more on the mechanical side than fishability side, and obviously i get they fall hand in hand to an extent.
99% of the time he is spot on but has been a couple of reviews/comments i find funny though from him, and has been mentioned by others online.

Just with the Azores for example, he said he won't do a review because it is just the same as the okuma v system reels, which yes some parts are, body rotor etc, but the Azores has carbon drag washers vs the felt of the v system and a few other differences which were his only gripes with the earlier v system reels', so what's so bad about them then? retailing at the moment in a lot of shops sub $200 NZD which at that price point there isn't much that competes, $100 more there is, but not at $180-190 NZD retail.


Another example that springs to mind were the comments he made about the shimano twin power sw, basically saying it is just a over priced saragosa sw and is no difference besides cosmetics and internally it is closer to the gosa than stella.... Which isn't true though when you open them up, the twin power uses a very similar gearing setup to the stella, much different to the saragosa/ spheros type setup. The drag is also alot different as is most of the reel. Others have gone into detail about this on various forums for anyone interested.
]]> Mon, 28 Nov 2016 19:19:27 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122101&PID=1667331&title=daiwa-bg-for-hauraki-top-water#1667331 <![CDATA[Daiwa BG for Hauraki top water? : Fishy11 wrote:Don&#039;t quote...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122101&PID=1667305&title=daiwa-bg-for-hauraki-top-water#1667305 Author: OuttaHere
Subject: 122101
Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 5:39pm

Originally posted by Fishy11 Fishy11 wrote:

Don't quote me on it Rozboon, but i wouldn't be suprised if the metaloid spinnig reels are just a comsmetically updated Azores( and from what i've seen on the net, don't look as good as the Azores).
Not that there not alright( i've got a Azores as one of my back up setups) at that price range retail wise they would be my pick unless you can get a deal on a BG or something else like The Tamure Kid.

Only my opinion but having fished all of the discussed models i would still put the saragosa above either in terms of build quality and fishability. A lot of reel for the money and would be my 1st pick if you want something decent but 'don't want to spend twin power, stella, saltiga type money. Down side is they are a jump up price wise from the BG, Azores etc and don't come in a high speed model in the larger sizes 10k and above.


I've had a play with a sample Metaloid and unless I'm fairly well mistaken they're a somewhat different reel. Stainless steel gears for a start. Body, spool and rotor look extremely similar though.]]> Mon, 28 Nov 2016 17:39:31 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122101&PID=1667305&title=daiwa-bg-for-hauraki-top-water#1667305 <![CDATA[Daiwa BG for Hauraki top water? : I definitely had the Saragosa...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122101&PID=1667280&title=daiwa-bg-for-hauraki-top-water#1667280 Author: The Tamure Kid
Subject: 122101
Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 3:41pm

I definitely had the Saragosa 8000 on my radar, Fishy. Alan Hawk really rates that range. But if I was going to spend on a point of difference, I wanted something considerably faster than my Stradic and the BG fitted the bill - as long as it stacked up overall.

I'm not a Hawk nut, slavishy following what he says as the final say, but I certainly find his overall assessments interesting - particularly when he destroys a few myths, points out so called 'upgrades' or impressive sounding features are just bunkum etc. 

He really rates the Quantum Cabo in the big sizes (see his best lists), again a lot cheaper in the US than here. I'm not very familiar with that brand. But again, he was talking much bigger reels than I need.
From memory, I think he isn't a fan of the Azores, which got a lot of marketing hype in the US. Ditto the big Penn Clash. It'll be interesting to see when he reviews the new Penn Slammer III.
]]> Mon, 28 Nov 2016 15:41:51 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122101&PID=1667280&title=daiwa-bg-for-hauraki-top-water#1667280 <![CDATA[Daiwa BG for Hauraki top water? : Don&#039;t quote me on it Rozboon,...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122101&PID=1667264&title=daiwa-bg-for-hauraki-top-water#1667264 Author: Fishy11
Subject: 122101
Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 2:03pm

Don't quote me on it Rozboon, but i wouldn't be suprised if the metaloid spinnig reels are just a comsmetically updated Azores( and from what i've seen on the net, don't look as good as the Azores).
Not that there not alright( i've got a Azores as one of my back up setups) at that price range retail wise they would be my pick unless you can get a deal on a BG or something else like The Tamure Kid.

Only my opinion but having fished all of the discussed models i would still put the saragosa above either in terms of build quality and fishability. A lot of reel for the money and would be my 1st pick if you want something decent but 'don't want to spend twin power, stella, saltiga type money. Down side is they are a jump up price wise from the BG, Azores etc and don't come in a high speed model in the larger sizes 10k and above.
]]> Mon, 28 Nov 2016 14:03:20 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122101&PID=1667264&title=daiwa-bg-for-hauraki-top-water#1667264 <![CDATA[Daiwa BG for Hauraki top water? : The Tamure Kid wrote:No worries,...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122101&PID=1667262&title=daiwa-bg-for-hauraki-top-water#1667262 Author: Fishy11
Subject: 122101
Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 1:53pm

Originally posted by The Tamure Kid The Tamure Kid wrote:

No worries, Fishy.
NZ$181 landed from the US via YouShop. The US seller offered free shipping within the US. 
I just did another search. Go Fish in Takapuna has the best local price ($260), a lot lower than Marine Deals ($330) which I did my original calculations off. Rod & Reel is another $10 higher than Marine Deals.

Good stuff, yeah that's not a bad price. Hopefully you ge a king on it soon! Thumbs Up
]]> Mon, 28 Nov 2016 13:53:02 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122101&PID=1667262&title=daiwa-bg-for-hauraki-top-water#1667262 <![CDATA[Daiwa BG for Hauraki top water? : Somehow the programming code from...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122101&PID=1667205&title=daiwa-bg-for-hauraki-top-water#1667205 Author: The Tamure Kid
Subject: 122101
Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 8:46am

Somehow the programming code from the government monitoring microchip in your wrist is being picked up by your keyboard as you're typing. I'd have it removed asap! LOL

The big difference for me, and what attracted me to the reel, was the fast retrieval rate for various lure fishing options.

As you can see from the thread, I had a question mark over the drag power in the smaller size 5000H (because I'm a relative newbie at kingie fishing I didn't have a clue what that really mean in practical terms) but in the heavy duty sizes, there is heaps of drag.

I know it's great to support local stores - like Go Fish, and Big Fish in particular, i'm not so fussed about the chains - but for me, it was a good saving.
]]> Mon, 28 Nov 2016 08:46:49 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122101&PID=1667205&title=daiwa-bg-for-hauraki-top-water#1667205 <![CDATA[Daiwa BG for Hauraki top water? : &lt;div id=&#039;ragapatop&#039;...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122101&PID=1667197&title=daiwa-bg-for-hauraki-top-water#1667197 Author: OuttaHere
Subject: 122101
Posted: 28 Nov 2016 at 7:54am

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Originally posted by The Tamure Kid The Tamure Kid wrote:

No worries, Fishy.
NZ$181 landed from the US via YouShop. The US seller offered free shipping within the US. 
I just did another search. Go Fish in Takapuna has the best local price ($260), a lot lower than Marine Deals ($330) which I did my original calculations off. Rod & Reel is another $10 higher than Marine Deals.
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Subject: 122101
Posted: 27 Nov 2016 at 10:50pm

No worries, Fishy.
NZ$181 landed from the US via YouShop. The US seller offered free shipping within the US. 
I just did another search. Go Fish in Takapuna has the best local price ($260), a lot lower than Marine Deals ($330) which I did my original calculations off. Rod & Reel is another $10 higher than Marine Deals.
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