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Originally posted by MB MB wrote:

Tonight's homework: research "cock in a sock" LOL

I'll be honest, I'm definitely not going to google that 😂
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Sanmar have found at burnsco,tougher than pillies, use as cut baits.  HaHa MB yes googled cock in a sock.

Fishing from shore have found good old salted mullet works just fine.,might too start making some for those days  where small fish about,,tend to leave alone.
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So curiosity got the best of me and I googled it + fishing. Very interesting concept, I'm unsure of how well it would do off the rocks though lol
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It'll work just fine. You're using a tough bait with low scent (squid) to carry a soft bait with high scent (pilchard). Don't over think it. Snapper, assuming they are the target are filthy scavengers. I've seen them eat dead birds and polystyrene! 
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I was planning on getting some squid on the way to Westhaven tomorrow morning so I guess I'll give it a try over there
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Nothing at Westhaven so I went to Herne Bay. Picked up a sabiki and luckily a few of the people who turned up had burley. Is it possible to use tiny Jack Mackerel (I think) for live bait? I put a few on my running rig but they seemed dying or tired by the time I got them into the water. Perhaps too small? I hooked them through the back.
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If the live bait dies, it's dead bait. It will still catch snapper. Nose hooked might keep them alive longer. Repeated casting and retrieving of live baits will finish them off quickly, as will big, heavy hooks. You have to be organised when live baiting, bucket of water to keep the fish in while you get ready is useful. Next level would be slide baiting (Google!). 
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You are on the right track. Persevere - and follow MBs advice.
Good luck.
Was anyone else catching off the wharf?
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Morning gents,
The live bait and the dead bait both didn't attract any bites. I was using a 5/0 circle hook on my running rig so it was most likely too big for the tiny fish, and I probably shouldn't have had a sinker on. I'm about to look up slide baiting on youtube for a tutorial now.
There were around 6 people all up on the wharf, 2 brought burley which mainly attracted sprats. There was something big chasing the sprats for a few minutes but I'm guessing I spooked it by casting towards it.
1 guy who had his line in the deeper end of the water caught a 40cm snapper at about 10am, and someone else caught something that looked like a pilchard, but besides that it was only sprats until I left at about 12.30. I returned at 5pm and stayed until 9 but only caught 2 baby snapper the entire time without any nibbles or bites after them.
I read that wharves attract fish at night because of the lights that surround it, Wairangi wharf doesn't have any. Should I be using lights to shine into the water or should I have been at a different wharf?
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Another question, when using burley in the shallows like that, where should I be casting and how far? The guy who caught the snapper yesterday reeled it in before the burley was in the water. Luck?
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try the end of queens wharf where the cloud is,plenty people fish of there so no issue fishing
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Originally posted by Pcj Pcj wrote:

try the end of queens wharf where the cloud is,plenty people fish of there so no issue fishing


If the Wilson carpark wasn't going to cost $6 for half an hour, I would probably give that a go. Ouch
Maybe I'll give it a try if the Mrs can do a drop off/pick up some time. How deep is the water there?

On another note, are there any resources available to find out how deep water is at high/low tide at certain wharves/jettys/beaches in Auckland/NZ?
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I doubt you would find that info on depth of wharves. But the tide depths will be on tide tables.
The fishing where you were the other day may well have been tough going - you only saw 1 decent fish caught. Normally if there were plenty around, some more would have been snagged, so don't get too discouraged.  You can always ask the likes of someone who caught something, what technique/bait they are using. Then there is the bite time. I couldn't tell you how that works in Akl regarding harbours and tides, moon etc. But the locals will chip in.
Sometimes, when the bite is on, your line struggles to hit  the bottom. When the bite is off, there may be plenty of fish around - but good luck trying to catch something. That is fishing.  I have sat over top of fish (on my sounder, in the boat) and not got a bite. You know they are down there. But can come home with zero.
The sprats are going to be a challenge with the bait. Something a bit tougher - as suggested by MB may help.
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Originally posted by Gaz1 Gaz1 wrote:

Another question, when using burley in the shallows like that, where should I be casting and how far? The guy who caught the snapper yesterday reeled it in before the burley was in the water. Luck?

The marine environment is dynamic, so there are no hard and fast rules which is what makes fishing so fascinating and occasionally, frustrating. Sometimes snapper will literally be chomping on the burley bag. Other times, they are more cautious and hang well back. 

Luck? It plays a part for sure, but what we try to do is reduce our reliance on luck.
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Originally posted by Gaz1 Gaz1 wrote:

I read that wharves attract fish at night because of the lights that surround it, Wairangi wharf doesn't have any. Should I be using lights to shine into the water or should I have been at a different wharf?

I believe that light attracts small critters which attract baitfish which in turn attract bigger predators. Light can be good, but I wouldn't mind fishing in total darkness either. Fish have a great sense of smell.
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My best day fishing was back in late 80s early 90s off Challenger island,Kawau. October low tide midday sun and moon was up.No wind Calender said bad day. Certainly was. smallest 7lb and bigest went 14lb

Just shows you never know until you try.
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Thanks for all the advice guys! Finally caught me a keeper over at Westhaven today. I got some 7/0 circle hooks before I went out and made a running rig with a pilchard tail baited with some elastic holding it on. First cast and I caught a 37cm trevally, bled it and left for home before the rain got worse. Veeeeery happy with my fish and it will be going in the oven for dinner tonight!


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Excellent Gaz, persistence pays off! 

Trevally are one of our favourite eating fish. Don't let anyone put you off, although admittedly, the blood line (red meat) doesn't freeze very well, so I remove it if freezing trevally fillets. Doesn't sound like that's going to be an issue for you right now Smile
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Whoo hoo , Looks good man . Next time take an umbrella and stick around for a few more Big smile
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