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    Posted: 04 Nov 2013 at 9:37pm
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Some guidance required here guys please. Have just bought the new Shimano Ocea 802 stick bait rod rated upto 50lb & would appreciate some input as to which reel would be best suited. Reels are Sustain 10000 FG loaded with Suffix 50lb & Stella 10000 sw loaded with Jigstar 50lb braid. So the Stella has considerably more drag but has jigging braid on it the Sustain has good casting braid but much less drag. Am doing a trip to far north next month so need to have plan I suppose I could use either/both but would be keen to get your thoughts.
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The stella with the jigstar braid will likely outcast the sustain, mainly due to the spool lip design. The jigstar braid is from memory an 8 carrier reasonably round braid and should cast nicely.

But as you state, take both and compare them.....
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just take it in to your local store and ask them to swap it over Wink
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Hi AJ sorry mate swap what??
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The Stella would be much better due to the higher ratio,
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Stella would be more suitable and probably still cast further (not to sure ive never used that braid before)
, You could just get a tackle shop to swap your braid over ?? 
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Not seen the sustain but on a recent trip to vanuatu I observed the Stella and used it as a comparison to my 18000 Stella both were impressive in cast distance and retrieval rate. I could definitely cast the 10000 all day it was a nice unit.Can't remember the rod unfortunately. I definitely like the Stella myself.
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Originally posted by Nomis Nomis wrote:

Stella would be more suitable and probably still cast further (not to sure ive never used that braid before)
, You could just get a tackle shop to swap your braid over ?? 
 
what he said, just swap braid over.
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no contest: stella.
lifetime of the braid is a lot shorter than the lifetime of the reel.
use the braid on it, or swap as they have said above.
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Cheers fellas I guess my concern is how much drag came I put over the rod!? I suspect that I need to be a bit careful not to put too much drag over it when using the Stella & don't get under gunned if I use the Sustain on it. Will try both & report back with findings. Cheers again Pete
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I don't think you will use to much drag, even 10kg is plenty. My mate caught a 84 lb GT last weekend and we test the drag afterwards and it was only 8.2 kg. That rod will easily handle 50lb braid.
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Originally posted by PE Pete PE Pete wrote:

Cheers fellas I guess my concern is how much drag came I put over the rod!? I suspect that I need to be a bit careful not to put too much drag over it when using the Stella & don't get under gunned if I use the Sustain on it. Will try both & report back with findings. Cheers again Pete
you can still drive a porche at 100 k's an hour......just feels smoother than most at 100!
same applies to the stella.
you could have a play..loaded up with a mate and a set of scales and get a feel for how many clicks on the drag button......you would have a rough idea where to go then and not beyond.Wink
IMHO id always prefer to have power in reserve......than push a reel to its max.
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Saffa & Laidback thanks for your input boys. my heart say "have a crack with the Sustain it will be a good sporting fight" my head says "put the Stella on so you can give it heaps if you need to". Got a trip booked to far north with Lionel think I might let my head win when I fish up there but may let my heart Win when next fishn in the Gulf. Also just treated myself to a Carpenter 100g Bluefish stick bait for the upcoming far north mish so definitely want to make sure I can get that back to the boat no matter what's attached to it. Cheers Pete
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Originally posted by PE Pete PE Pete wrote:

Saffa & Laidback thanks for your input boys. my heart say "have a crack with the Sustain it will be a good sporting fight" my head says "put the Stella on so you can give it heaps if you need to". Got a trip booked to far north with Lionel think I might let my head win when I fish up there but may let my heart Win when next fishn in the Gulf. Also just treated myself to a Carpenter 100g Bluefish stick bait for the upcoming far north mish so definitely want to make sure I can get that back to the boat no matter what's attached to it. Cheers Pete
Very nice Pete...Lionel is a top bloke(Fished white island with memory makers) and will do his best for you......You sound like you will be well armed and ready for battle....I agree fish the stella 10K(use that up there) and the bluefish....what king could resist that? Its a trip i want to do sometime...Good luckWink
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Hey Laidback thanks again for your input! I am truly looking forward to the trip been dreaming of fishing the very far north & Maria Van Demon in particular. Think I'm probably suitable equipped from a gear point of view hope my skills are upto the challenge. Really looking forward to flicking that Carpenter BF on my new Shimano Ocea 802 & as per your response to my post about the Stella vs Sustain will be using the Stella when targeting the big ass green backs.
Cheers again mate. Pete
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