Have started looking at boats with she who must be obeyed. 

speaking with extreme at the recent boatshow, they said they wouldnt let any boats leave their factory without either nyalic or paint on them. pretty much discounts them straight away for me as i want neither.

i still cannot understand why extreme also continue with sidepockets in the cockpit which cannot accommodate a 7ft rod or large speargun?

the cabins on both boats you mention are marginal if you are of normal height and want to stretch out whilst lying down - it may be a matter of taking fold out cots and sleeping under the dropback in the cockpit. without a full bulkhead separating the cabin, you may be able to get surtees to extend the bunkbases?

have you priced them? is there much difference? lots of extreme packages with etecs on them

resale on both likely to be strong.

bit of a coin toss without first hand experience.

as for how they go, couldnt say as i havent been on either. a seatrial might decide it for you.

which ever way you go, make sure you get 'tabs and go for maximum horsepower.

Spoke to a guy on the water on the weekend.  He had a nice looking Surtees Game Fisher 5.8.  He was very happy with it, but wished he'd opted for 130HP rather than the 115HP he went with.

We've got the 6.1 Game Fisher and we're really happy with it.  Not sure whether the 30cm difference between the 5.8 and the 6.1 is in the cockpit or the cabin.  I find that I can sleep "comfortably" in the cabin of the 6.1 (I'm 5'10").

Cheers.

We did a bit of looking around before settling on an Extreme 610. LOVE IT.
Never been on a Surtees- but took a guy to the Mokes who was blown away by the Extreme. He seemed to think the smoothness of ride was comparable, but said the Surtees have a tendancy to be "pushed around" by a swell.
Actually, Surtees were only in the running for about 5 mins, till the Mrs saw one, and put it in the "way too bloody ugly" basket.
Oh, Bounty, I have no trouble fitting a 140 Rob Allen gun in the side compartment- might be a different story in the 580 though

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I was looking at both these a year ago, and ended up going for the Extreme GK570 with a Honda 115.

family affair wrote: come to think about it y is it iv never seen a extreme on the water? is it because they are over priced or just not as common yet?

I found the Extreme way cheaper than the Surtees 5.8 - maybe because the 5.8 was a new model then, mind you the 570 was also newly redesigned.

spear junkie wrote: I reckon the 80 litre tank in the Extreme is not really big enough- have a chat to them they might be able to make it bigger

Second that spear junkie - 80 litres is ok, but would be nice to have something bigger for the longer trips (i.e. to the Barrier)

Other differences that I noted ...
Hull thickness: Extreme 5mm, Surtees 4mm
Surtees metal bait board is great unless you want anyone to sit on the rear seat where it is about at their head height - the Extreme palstic foldaway/removable one is better in this respect.
Everything seemed to be extra on the Surtees, whereas the Extreme had loads included in the base price.

Was/am disappointed with the quality of the welding on the extreme I got - looks like chicken poo in places. The ones at the show were ok, so maybe I got a duff welder. I also dislike the nylac as it reacts not only to petrol but also sunblock! Extreme have another clear finish that they are trialling - can't remember the name of it - worth investigating though - Contact Berni

Really pleased with the extreme, good ride - even more pleased with the Honda - maybe would go for the 135 next time?

Correction, that should read that the Surtees flooding keel can be shut off, and Extreme can't

Cashedup wrote: Correction, that should read that the Surtees flooding keel can be shut off, and Extreme can't

Gimmick in my opinion, if the Surtees wasn't such a light weight hull it wouldn't need to carry extra ballast for stability.  There are two large bins under the floor on the Extreme that you can flood with water if you really want to carry some extra weight.

Murph wrote: Cashedup wrote: Correction, that should read that the Surtees flooding keel can be shut off, and Extreme can't Gimmick in my opinion, if the Surtees wasn't such a light weight hull it wouldn't need to carry extra ballast for stability.  There are two large bins under the floor on the Extreme that you can flood with water if you really want to carry some extra weight.

can do the same on the surtees aswell

Go Murph  Love my 570 Extreme Nothing seems to be too much trouble for Berni and crew to deal with.