This may be something that is common knowledge but it's new to me, was on the herald website today.

Here goes...

case wrote: I for one couldn't give a rodents rectum what twig and tweet have to say about anything.

Case, you're a bloody legend mate. Legend.

As long as Twig and Tweet stay naked dancing in the Forest I will remain happily neutral to their rantings
If they get into saving kelp forest as well I guarantee it will end in tears for someone
To many of em live on the fringe of reality

Despite having laid a noise complaint against F&B (true story) I think their fringe element are pretty much harmless and without groups like them we would have less wild country to hunt and probably a fishery in far worse condition.

You only have to go back to the debate on here around the reduction in snapper limits in the Hauraki Gulf to see that while they F&B might represent one end of the scale there are plenty at the other end only to happy to rape and pillage everything.

F & B do some great work as mentioned above, on the other hand so much of their info , like with Green peace, is rather selective and very dubious....bird numbers after the Rena.. based on huge overseas spillage numbers.. and eventually , in fine print know one notices refuted months later...
list can go on and on...
And basically a mouth piece for DoC.. but then any conservation project whatever has to bow down to the deskjockies at DoC anyway to have anything happen... stuff up or not... and then takes years of wasted meetings, shuffling papers and pulling wasted budgets at taxpayers expense...

On the other hand we can mock Mallard.....well its the thing to do right now.... time frame  30 to 50 yrs...Really?  lets see Capt Kirk had his  Science fiction communicator..   now we have our smart phones that make his communicator look like brick cell phone 10/15 years ago  and our smart phones have more computing power than what was used to put man on the moon.
The technology to re create the Moa is still in its infancy...but beyond the Si Fi realms.
And so was man on the moon when Kennedy announced it to happen within the decade...
Those who mock , may like to forget they did within their own lifetime....

I think it's good to see the information out there and easily accessible by the general public at least, even if it is 'dubious'.

I think the tallest guy should lead it.

Geofinz wrote: Despite having laid a noise complaint against F&B (true story) I think their fringe element are pretty much harmless and without groups like them we would have less wild country to hunt and probably a fishery in far worse condition. You only have to go back to the debate on here around the reduction in snapper limits in the Hauraki Gulf to see that while they F&B might represent one end of the scale there are plenty at the other end only to happy to rape and pillage everything.

agreed. Need one end of the spectrum to cancel out the other. They're mad though. Their flier had a lutjanid snapper image instead of our porgy, as does this article. Rookies