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    Posted: 26 Aug 2015 at 9:38pm
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I'm keen on a pontoon boat 5,5m + second hand. Around 25k.
What are your thoughts on the following boats.
Stabi
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Any others I'd be keen to know about. I have time to wait for the rite deal.
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I have a 4.2M Mac Fisherman which I have been using on Manukau Bar for 8 years now and I like it.  Not perfect but works for me, punches above its size, Mac 570 not well known but would be a good boat - are you wanting for diving or fishing - for diving easy boats to get in and out of.
Like the material - plastic is real easy to live with.  Boat was poorly setup from new - had to adjust engine height and fit a permatrim but good now.  One plus is boat and trailer made in Akld so any spares or repairs needed are easy to arrange.  
Good fishing trip nothing breaks, great trip catch fish.
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I have been in several different brands of pontoon boat in varying sizes. IMHO One brand, no matter what size, rides better than the others - kiwikraft.

However their main problem is a narrow internal beam, especially in the smaller models. Not a lot of room!
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I do like the sound of the mac 5,7. I havnt heard much about them either.

I've heard heaps of good about the kiwi craft but it is narrow.

I want to go out over the bar and long distant east coast trips.

I need space for 4 on the boat incl me.

I'm a fisherman so jigging, popping, softbaiting.
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for 25k you could pick up a older pontoon in good nick with a late motor, Tsunami is another brand. I saw one at paeora marine going for about 25k.
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Cheers. Will have a good look. I know the older pontoon boats bang in the rough but I'm keen on the safety aspect.
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I have really changed my mind about all the banging in the rough with the old school boats. you counter that with good driving skills, lift the noise, ride at a angle. probably because i am older know i don't thrash it like i used too.  common sense
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Makes sense.
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i agree with rahui ... if you dont drive it as hard it doesnt bang as bad

we were coming back across foveaux strait on saturday in a F14 Frewza, just took our time in the 1.5m swell with chop and didn't have any issues. But we are seldom in a hurry to get anywhere and never seem to have issues with hard rides (that said we are getting a bigger boat built as soon as mine sells, sticking with Frewza). The water was flat when we got into the shelter of Bluff hill and we opened it up from there.
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What are the senators and mac 5.7 like does anyone know?
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I agree with the driving style comment.  I have an older Bluefin.  They are very solid and stable boats, but too blunt in the entry so they lift and bang punching into or across a sea.

I just slow down to about 15 knots.  I am still planing at that speed, it's much more pleasant, and I can still cover 25km in a hour.


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What about those 5.7 macs they are built proof. a little flat in the nose and like anything will pound in a bad sea but slow down and enjoy the scenery
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I think you meant "Bullet Proof" Rahui !
And BTW ~ this is the most sensible thread around at present. If it's freaking rough ~ you either don't go out, or you slow down. Full stop. Anyone who says they can drive a small tinnie though rough sea at 25 knots (comfortably) is either suicidal or telling porkies
 
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Originally posted by Jelliman Jelliman wrote:

What are the senators and mac 5.7 like does anyone know?

I had a Mac Fisherman 570 for a few years, definitely had its pros and cons.

Pros
- Steady as anything at rest! 
- Quite roomy for a boat that size
- Easy as to clean / maintain due to it being plastic

Cons
- HEAVY. heavy to tow, and needs a good sized motor on it to get it going, we had 115 two stroke and wouldnt want any less than that.
- Wet, in any sea those round pontoons seemed to do a fantastic job at getting the water heading straight for your face, especially in any kind of quartering sea
- Ride was pretty hard due to its short blunt nose, again if you slow it down abit you will be fine! 

My father in law has a Senator 570 that I have spent abit of time in and I would say that would be my preference out of the two.


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Awesome that's good to know.
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Go for the Senator 540 with a Yammy 90 , may be able to pick one up for $25k now.
Good ride with a fine entry for a pontoon boat, way more freeboard than the Mac. One of the strongest screens you will see with acrylic set into a fully welded frame. I really appreciated this a couple of times when taking breaking waves on the cabin while launching in the surf. Had my Senator 520 out in 50kn winds and 3m swell just for fun a couple of times to see how it would cope. It never felt unsafe. The NZ fishing news review a few years ago rated them as the "best surf boat in the country"High praise.
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I had a 520 and it was generally a great boat but I thought it could have been a little beamier It was 1.99m .a little unstable for me.can't beat the Macs for stability
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Originally posted by yellafin yellafin wrote:

I have been in several different brands of pontoon boat in varying sizes. IMHO One brand, no matter what size, rides better than the others - kiwikraft.

However their main problem is a narrow internal beam, especially in the smaller models. Not a lot of room!
Right on the money. Nothing will touch a Kiwikraft.
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Just gave mine a ride this morning 3 adults 2 kids. Ate the sea . Much better ride than the Senator and more room. Heaps of room in the 495
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Not an easy decision. Are the kiwi kraft a lot narrower?
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