Boulder wrote: Sadly it seems to be true mate although I have heard that in some cases you can use barbless trebles but have to agree to unhook your own fish

enchanter and cova rose no longer allow trebles to better look after the kingies, a good thing in my opinion.

Good riddance - ******* of things for fish, anglers and deckies

not against it in principal, just a bit peeved that I'm possibly going to Ranfurly with a precision pak full of lures unrigged, and I waisted 2 days of casting in BOP on a shocker charter (not blamming the skip) where I could have been re-tuning with singles. But instead I'm back to square one and minimal chance of casting time before I go due to work commitments. I sudddenly feel unprepared and short of hooks, and Santa's pockets are bare.

kaveman wrote: Send them Gammas down to me Deane and i will tune them for you

SO can  someone , who knows Kenji-san or one of the skippers from Whakatane ( who must be starting to see which hooks work on which stickbaits ) or anyone who has done some serious experimenting , which hooks - rigging work as well as the trebles on the more popular lures , ie gammmas , orions , cherry pais , cb  ones . This would of great service to us all , and can lure makers start to work more on lures for single hooks

ReelAppealLures wrote: The Baker rig, well that's me sorted.

 Cheers  ,so on RAL lures we can use Baker  rigs  .

Good on you Sam for trying to make lures for years now that will swim with singles. It's a good ambition and a good deed. I always kind of balk at your glory hunting thou. A little more time in the early days in concentrating on design for lures that swim well and catch fish, rather than focusing on how to catch fishermen, would have served you a whole lot more better IMHO.

I'm in two minds about this. The best lures will not swim singles well at all. Lures that swim with singles or bakers rig work well when the bite is hot, but not when not. Trebles swim lures the best, but can be deadly on kingfish and deck crew. It's a double edged sword. Barbless help but doesn't solve the issue.

I'll continue to fish trebles on my boat and handle fish with the best care I can, given the situation. I also fully respect charter operators for the calls they make for them selves in this regard. Their call for a unified single kingfish take per angler in the western BOP has been good respectful approach. I see this is similar, but they should be able to make their own decisions. I think we should be more concerned about the comms than the sports fishermen.

By the way I think that picture above is a have.

fishntips wrote: By the way I think that picture above is a have.

Ahahaha looks photoshopped as eh?