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    Posted: 26 Apr 2008 at 10:23am
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This is the knot iv'e been using to connect  the jig heads, but, I had a bust off during the week and it broke on the knot, retied a new jighead gave it a bit of a yank and that broke also, So thinking the blackmagic 20lb flouro was the problem changed to the 30lb flouro, a good yank on that and it broke also, Frigg this I thought, its the Bloedy knot. So now im not so confident with the Leftys loop knot.......    Someone else might want to test this knot incase im just being  to critical for no reason.

Changed to a geenie clip and the old faithfull uni knot.
Any one else had the same problem
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Nope, I like the lefty's. I even tie it onto worm hooks instead of the uni.
I use BM 20 and 30lb FC and the lefty's always held pretty well. Had one in 30lb hold so well that it pulled straight through the eye of the TT jig head.
I reckon just go with what works for you though, my mate hates it and can't get it to hold so he goes the genie and uni too.
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Ive had the same prob too Worksux. Id tie it,give it a yank and snap,then followed by *&%^%&^* Angry
Then some other times it holds no worries.I use 20lb BM fluoro.Its an easy knot to tie and does the job......so??Havnt really had a good look at whats going on.
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I use it all the time and its the cheap black magic thats the problem spend the $ and get some yo-zuri trace from gofish its the ducks nuts mate i had the same problem the crap frays when knots are pullet tight with the youzui if i get a snag i can lock the reel and hold the boat side on in a drift with 15lb try that with black magic wont happen
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Its the bloke tying the knot not the trace...if its to dry when pulled up it will snap,pulled up to fast and it will burn and snap,not tied with the right amount of turns it will snap....ive done this knot several times on the line tester and its a superb knot when tied correctly...practise it and then hook it onto something solid like a car tow ball..then do the drag up and pull like a school boy till something snaps,buy some rapala drag scales ($20) and then you will no what your knots break at
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Nothing wrong with BM FC but Yo Zuri is good too, personally I think Seaguar (for the light stuff) is the best I've used but honestly I use more mono than FC anyway.

Couldn't agree more with what Wayne said, its not the knot that's the problem most of the time it's the persons competence with the tying of it, what ever knot you use.
There are plenty of knots that the majority of people use that I can't tie very well, like the spiders hitch, mine snap all the time, so I don't use it, I use what works for me and thats the bimini.
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leftys a great knot...as of2fsh said....give plenty of 'wet' before tightening up
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Ok, thanks fellas. 

Its funny, because the lefty loop has always been my go to knot since starting sp fishing 2 years ago. Iv'e doubled checked im tieing the knot correctly, I always use copious amount of spit and always check for strength, so im starting to think that maybe BM flouro is the problem, or,    could it be the sharp jerk doing the damage???
Is there any theories why the geenie clip is undesirable for sp fishing?
One thing about the geenie clip, its easy enough to change jigheads
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The genie clip is all good a lot of the time. I use them on occasions but some hooks and jig heads dont move freely on them so well, but if they do I'll use em.
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i've found that flurocarbon is also way harder to tie than nylon...
for my knots i just go with the good ole' trusty uni knot tied up to my finger tips.. hasn't let me down so far.
for my trace to doubled braid i use either an improved albright knot with a small touch of superglue for extra strength, or a back to back uni which is also successful for me..
before i got my 4lb braid set up i used to use the spiders hitch every time but when i went to tie it on the 4lb i'd pull it with my hands and it would snap easy as.. now i use the blimini twist, and haven't had a breaking yet.

it's not the knot it's the knot tier, like wayne said..
once you have tied the knot compare it with a picture of what it should look like and if anything looks wrong re-tie it because it will not be as effective.
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I have yet to break any knot and found the lefty so easy to tie but the other day I saw 'and I cant remember where yet' a different version of the lefties loop. It may have been on this website as was looking at knots on here. Sometimes I leave the knots on for ages to see how long they last and the jig head gets so munched up with teeth marks I end up redoing the knot to replace the jighead so I have found the lefties so reliable I cant see why your haveing trouble. Maybe a bad batch of trace. I am using Stren 25lb flourocarbon
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Ye thats exactly what keeps happening to me, but it doesn't seem to happen if you wet it first.
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Hi guys at the risk of sounding stupid what is lefty's, is that the little loop at the end by the jig head.. you do a granny knot then 5 twists then back through the eye?
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Back through the eye of the granny knot yea thats it.

Edit, although I do 6 turns but don't think it makes to much of a diff.
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Have a look at the following link:

http://www.flyfisherman.com/skills/lkknots/index1.html

Should explain all...

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My choice is still the trusty old uni-knot.
IMHO, it's easier & quicker to tie, is less bulky & can be tied "loose" up to the point of tightening, thus avoiding the burning or stressing that happens with some other knots. 
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I use the perfection loop for the loop at the hook end. Seems real strong.
Should be able to google it.
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i never wet my fluro when tying the knots. its better to "tease" the loops back up the line and gently tighten them. i use 4lb flouro when trout jigging and dont have a problem with the knots.
just be more careful when tying the not and all will be fine.
when using the leftys i go back thru the "y" loop and not throu the granny loop. this may be the diference.
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The Lefty's Loop, correctly tied, will test out at about 98% of your breaking strain. From the sounds of your results you are coming back through the loop from the wrong side, because that will cause it to test at about 25%.
 
Many people think this is a new knot because of the promotion it has had in Softbait fishing. The reality is it's a Lefty Kreh knot that has been around for a long, long time and been used bu SWF anglers throughout... tie it right it's bullet proof or damn near.
 
Don't vary it from the original. google search it, do it exactly right, every time through the same way... that's the key... it will not let you down...
 
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Would you agree with the lots of lube on the knot before pulling up tight Clark ??? made a big difference on the line tester
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