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   <title><![CDATA[leftys loop knot :   of2fsh wrote:.tie every knot...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=48025">phantomdeviant</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 28880<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 06 May 2008 at 6:06am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by of2fsh" alt="Originally posted by of2fsh" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>of2fsh wrote:</strong><br /><br />.tie every knot as if your about to catch a 20pder,if it doesnt&nbsp; look right do it again.If the fluoro leader gets scuffed or nicked above your hook from a fish or the rocks retie it before another cast....<BR></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Great advice here<img src="http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/smileys/smiley32.gif" height="17" width="18" border="0" alt="Clap" /></DIV>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[leftys loop knot :  every knot you tie must be wet...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=47682">of2fsh</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 28880<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 May 2008 at 8:49am<br /><br />every knot you tie must be wet with spit so it pulls up tight...if you dont it will not be as good..this i can prove,ive got the use of a I.G.F.A. line testing machine which has the capabillity to slowly tension the line and keep going till some part of the knot or line breaks.If "nylon slips" the knot is not done correctly.Some if not all knots will tighten up a bit when tested due to the machine applying more pressure.Fluoro requires alot of lube and in the case of heavy fluoro you must use your fingers to help the knot tighten up.<br><br>If&nbsp; you make shure every knot is well lubed,pulled up evenly and slowly and looks like it should when its finished you will have tied the knot to meet your expectations of the knots strength.The knot that i had alot of trouble with was the back to back uni.This was the hardest knot to tie well.I thought i was tying it well untill i put it on the tester,now i completly saturate the thing with spit before pulling tight.Havent had a failure since.tie every knot as if your about to catch a 20pder,if it doesnt&nbsp; look right do it again.If the fluoro leader gets scuffed or nicked above your hook from a fish or the rocks retie it before another cast....<br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 08:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[leftys loop knot : one of the big differences is...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=55170">roddholder</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 28880<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 May 2008 at 11:28pm<br /><br />one of the big differences is nylon "slips" and flouro dosent. try a fly with 6lb mono and a clinch knot with 3 turns. it will slip every time, weather you wet it or not. tie the same knot with flouro and dont wet it, and it wont slip.&nbsp; repeat with an improved clinch knot and the nylon wont slip but the flouro will break off at about half the strain of the nylon.<br>when i tie my traces for trout jigging i use a tripple overhand knot and dont get knot failure. strong and wont slip. <br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 23:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[leftys loop knot : That&amp;#039;s probably some of the...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=54306">smudge</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 28880<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 May 2008 at 8:48am<br /><br /><P><img src="http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/smileys/smiley16.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Cool" />&nbsp;That's probably some of the best advice I've heard Clark and I agree 100%, after all most 'the one that got away' stories are about massive fish busting us off - simply because of the size of the fish and NEVER due to crap technique or dodgy knots or other totally preventable gear failure.</P><P>Unfortunately I'm a 100% she'll be righter.... <img src="http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/smileys/smiley4.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Big%20smile" /></P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[leftys loop knot :  Thanks for the advice, Clark....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=65878">Olfart</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 28880<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 May 2008 at 6:38am<br /><br />Thanks for the advice, Clark.&nbsp; <img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" border="0" alt="Thumbs%20Up" /><br><br>Unfortunately, the Guides Bimini may not be for me... as I wear full dentures&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" alt="Big%20smile" /><br><br>Guess I will need to stick with the TS, Yucatan and TS (or Lefty's Loop) for my rigs.&nbsp; The only failures I have been experiencing is bust offs just below the Yucatan when I have snagged my terminal tackle on a "rock fish".&nbsp; I am using 6lb braid and 8lb leader so am thinking of upping the leader to something a little stronger - 15lb maybe...????<br><br><img src="uploads/65878/th_fishing2.gif" height="20" width="63" border="0" /><br><br><br>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 06:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[leftys loop knot :   roddholder wrote:bang on Clark,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=53972">Pole Dancer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 28880<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 May 2008 at 12:10am<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by roddholder" alt="Originally posted by roddholder" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>roddholder wrote:</strong><br /><br />bang on Clark, i noticed when i used to troll for trout with lures that the flouro was breaking off where it entered the eye of the lure. it simply wont stand the friction that nylon will. i tried making the hole smoother and drilled out to larger size etc. went back to nylon.....no more problems. <BR>i check my flouro after EVERY fish now. its amazing how often you will find a tiny nick or flaw that would cause a breakage on the next fish.<BR>i loose a lot less gear now, funny that!.<BR></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Rodholder... I'm probably to some degree on the first point, just arguing semantics, because I agree, essentially, totally with you. But I would say it is wear on fluoro not friction that causes the issue. If it were friction,... you;d be wetting your knots<img src="http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" />.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>One of the things that lead me to change to 100% fluoro in trout fishing, whether it be lake fishing or on a back country stream chucking dry flies at dumb rainbows... was it's abrasion resistance.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Some have argued this with me saying after a fish drags fluoro over a rock it feels very abraded and they are, of course, correct... it does. You have also landed the fish and have the photos.... You tie a new leader because you can tell this one is stuffed. Had you been using the mono in the same circumstance you would have, instead of leader feeling somewhat abraded, a cleanly broken leader that snapped on contact with the first obstacle and no photos but a good story of yet another monster that got away.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I believe there is a lot of marketing hype in the "invisibility factor" of fluoro, although I have no doubt it is less visible than mono. I don't believe the blanket statement that it doesn;t knot well, I accept totally that knots completely differently to mono.</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I fish, as I am certain you do Rodholder, with the thought that the very next fish to take my fly, or that i might present a fly to, may just be the fish of the lifetime. This leaves no room for "She'll be right" It means, to me, that if I can tie a 98% knot instead of a 87% knot then I should. It means if one leader material gives me a 2% advantage over another I should take it... when else will I get to do battle with this fish?</DIV><DIV>One of my favourite&nbsp;quotes if from Sean Connery in the movie the Untouchables... "Trust a wop to bring a knife to a gunfight"... we all laugh at this, but when many go fishing they do exactly that. They fish not with the %age advantages but with the "cheap" line, the "look at the deal I got on these flies" and the "I can only tie this knot", knot...</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>When you gird your loins to take on that creature you've spent a lifetime dreaming about and pursuing... you better be ready.... and it might just happen on this drop???</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I'm probably preaching to the converted here... but I felt like saying it anyway!<img src="http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" /></DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 00:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=53972">Pole Dancer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 28880<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 May 2008 at 11:56pm<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Olfart" alt="Originally posted by Olfart" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Olfart wrote:</strong><br /><br />Clark:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I've been using a triple Surgeons knot to make the double shock lead in the braid - mainly because I am too ham-fisted!&nbsp; Have tried to tie a Spider hitch to do the same job, but somehow I always end up with a mess... The Surgeons knot has not let me down so far.<BR><img src="uploads/65878/th_fishing2.gif" height="20" width="63" border="0" /><DIV></td></tr></table> </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The Triple Surgeons (TS) is a superb knot for it's strength to stability. It&nbsp; is most probably the handiest line joining and loop making knot that can be done in a real hurry onboard a boat... not nesacarily to replace the Lefty's for fly or jig connection because that is just as fast, but for line joining and also double making...</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The bimini as most everyone knows it is a thing to be done land bound by most anglers requiring two hands and usually one toe and one knee. However, a good friend of mine, Peter Morse from Australia evolved a method of tying a small bimini using only your hands and teeth. This proved a bit of an obstacle for me as I wear a partial denture, but time and experience now means I know exactly what two real teeth will hold the braid to tie of what Peter calls the "Guides Bimini"... it's a great thing to learn. We use it in many a&#091;pplications in Saltwaterfly and it was natural to bring it with me as I have the occasional dabble with a softbait or two...</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>The TS will serve you well, very well and there is probably few reasons to part from it. But the Guide's Bimini is a just a great tool to have in your arnsenal and if nothing else, like the Yucatan... a fun thing to tie.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=66792">$$$VOTE THE GIB CHEERS$$$</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 28880<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 May 2008 at 11:09am<br /><br />wat equipment do u need????<img src="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" border="0" alt="Thumbs%20Up" />]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[leftys loop knot : Hi everyone i reccomed to use...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=66792">$$$VOTE THE GIB CHEERS$$$</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 28880<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 May 2008 at 11:08am<br /><br />Hi everyone i reccomed to use rainbow braid for lives its real good and every 100 meters it goes out it changes colour so when u let it run u can see how far its out CHEERS EVERYONE]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[leftys loop knot : bang on clark, i noticed when...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=55170">roddholder</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 28880<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 May 2008 at 10:54am<br /><br />bang on clark, i noticed when i used to troll for trout with lures that the flouro was breaking off where it entered the eye of the lure. it simply wont stand the friction that nylon will. i tried making the hole smoother and drilled out to larger size etc. went back to nylon.....no more problems. <br>i check my flouro after EVERY fish now. its amazing how often you will find a tiny nick or flaw that would cause a breakage on the next fish.<br>i loose a lot less gear now, funny that!.<br>]]>
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