Anyone have a Cals Plate to suit Ocea Jigger 4000P they don't require? Or know where I could source one?

Starnsy wrote: Anyone have a Cals Plate to suit Ocea Jigger 4000P they don't require? Or know where I could source one? Cheers

I just put carbontex into my Trini 40N, it's rock solid now. Can't see the drag plate upgrade making that big a diffference.

The biggest issue was the crap drag washers they came with....turning into powder and crapping up the inside........when i bought my 4000P new.....i didnt even use it......put the plate and carbontex washers in straight away.......

kaveman wrote: Bigfishbob wrote: I just put carbontex into my Trini 40N, it's rock solid now. Can't see the drag plate upgrade making that big a diffference. carbontex washers make the drag  a lot smoother compared to the old type washer material. The drag plate actually increases the pressure on the washers and increases drag from stock standard of 15kgs on 4000, 5000P OJ to 22-23kg. Both my 4000 and 5000 have the Cals plate and carbontex washers, very smooth and so much better than standard setup

KikBac wrote: I have an original Cal's plate (new in packet) for a Trini gold 16/20/30 if anyone's interested.

Titahi wrote: Sorry LBD, The groove doesnt have any effect on drag out put. For a start the original only has a groove on the top side og the drag plate, which of cource doesnt come into contact with the drag material. The Cal Sheets drag plates are thicker than the shimano original, the sleeve (sits over the drag threaded stem)that transfers force from the drag adjuster to the drag stack, does so via the middle of the drag plate, the cals plate being thicker, is able to exert more pressure over the whole off the drag washers, where as the original would cup slightly. First photo in the tutorial shows how the original has groove up... http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=15118.0 I was of the understanding that Cal had retired asnd his son has taken a bigger role in the running of things?

Some ******* should be making em..........there is still a demand there.

Roz, the Trini 16/20/30 plate is a smaller diameter than the OJ 4000/5000 (These are the same size as the larger Trini 40's)

The weak link in the older torium/trini is the AR system, the AR bearing is really only good for 20lbs after which the silent AR dog kicks in. The silent dogs eventually fail after sustained use and the handle will spin backwards. Alan Tani has a good fix on these older reels with a spring loaded dog:

Alan Tani

The Trini A series has 2 x silent dogs, but will still experience the same AR issues.

I upgraded an older Torium 16 (carbontex drags, spring loaded AR dog, extra pinion bearing, 1 x heavy and 2 x light bellevilles) and got 14 kg's of super smooth drag with a bulletproof anti-reverse. With this Belleville configuration however the reel did not have complete freespool with the drag backed right off, so I reverted to 2 x heavy bellevilles and still got an impressive 12 kg's of drag.

Rozboon wrote: Ahh so it will be TGT0441, cheers.   Interesting with the ARB, I had kinda suspected as much about them going backwards at high drags.   I wonder at what point the pinion gear starts to suffer, drag-wise?

Would never trust any anti reverse ARB bearing, double dogs are certainly the best when running heavy drags