TLD25 Issue?

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    Posted: 06 Apr 2010 at 4:15pm
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Hi all,
 
noticed very recently my TLD25 is starting to play up:
 
1) Drag lever is now very stiff to move forward or back
 
2) even when on freespool....it seems 'stiff' to pull line out etc.....this is with ratchet off...so much so, no way could a bait fish take line out on its own
 
sld I be worried its stuffed?  heading to Lottin soon too!
 
hoping it just needs a good clean up / service etc
 
its hardly been thro the mill either, with only 1 king hooked...that broke me off very quickly...
 
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Silly question - the drag adjustment knob isn't wound up too tight is it? That would give you these symptoms.
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I will recheck that tonight....i did set it to around 6-7KGs...and havent moved it.....unless someone has 'moved it for me' or it accidently got moved....
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sounds like you got a sticky drag preset knob. Just needs a bit of oil if thats the case. Always have a drop or two of that shimano gear oil on that knob everytime you clean it.
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Theres a very detailed tear down here.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=36.0
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spend $30 and get it serviced.Last thing you need is a big king with a ****tty drag!!
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the most common thing to go on a tld25 is the thrust bearing due to water intrusion, but you'd know about that because it'd feel like a coffee grinder to crank with the on.

first and foremost I'd be checking the pre-set as Tele said, someone may have fiddled with it?? seems to happen to the ones in the shop, I'm forever backing off drags at the end of the day.LOL

Will it be in use on the weekend? if you want I'll take my tools/grease/oil etc into work on friday and we'll crack it open and have a look free of charge, I've serviced my own twice now (once for it's anual and another after some heavy splashing) and done the thrust bearing for a customer's one so am getting familiar with the things.
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Hey guys on my tld25 brand new first ive owned, even on the lowest drag setting it requires quite a hard pull to make line come of winds in and out perfectly freespools nicely I was thinking if a kingi grabed it theres a good chance itll pull the rod and reel from the rod holder with this in mind i spiced abit of rope to a biner then clip it to the reel, my drag was set by the guys at hunting and fishing massey I didnt have my rod with me so he just got me to hold to reel which I thought was a lil cowboy but he showed me the scale reading which was around 7kgs. Maybe I shoudl get it rechecked 
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Sounds like drag knob is too tight to me but if in doubt take it down your local for a service.
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Yep Pauly I would get that rechecked. Sounds like not set up correctly at all. Otherwise are you pushing the lever all the way to freespool? ie gone past the last wee click?
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Just looking around the net and Tiburon are doing new alloy frames for the tld series.

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very, very unusual for this to happen as a reel failure,
its been mentioned, undo your drag knob, make sure you release the drag leaver 1st, then spin the spool by hand a few times and see if it all releases
and to be fair if it dont spin freely it would pay to maybe replace the drag washers, and have a good look at the sealed bearings cause the internals have been stretched so to speak
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one other thing, with whats been described by a few have you ever wondered why guys like my self say to run the lines specified for the drags, if you feel your toes have been stood on its not intentional
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not at all blue...it was preset to 6 - 7kgs...which i dont think is excessive for strike
 
by the way....seems like 'someone' had fiddled with the preset drag....it didnt even cross my mind to check because...why would it have changed?!  d'oh Embarrassed
 
will still get a service before lottin though.... Smile
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talking off tlds my 25 seems to have a a like sticky drag. its great wen its half way to srike but wen it gets to strike n im playing fish it doesnt seem to run great n has a like jerky feel.its like letting line off in waves if you get wot im trying to say??? the strike is set at 7 kg.. any ideas guys?
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Ahhh thought would be something simple eh Cal!
 
Profisho - you might be pushing the drag to its limit a bit there eh. Reels are better suited to 15kg rather than 24kg but if fishing 24kg just do as BA once said and run drag settings more suited to 15kg line ie 5kg at strike.
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Originally posted by Yeahnah Yeahnah wrote:

Just looking around the net and Tiburon are doing new alloy frames for the tld series.



very interesting, i can't see a listing for the 25 single speed, but I assume a 30 2 speed's guts will swap with a 25 single's?

I wonder what the frame would bring the final weight figure to? Also If with the metal frame and carbon drag upgrade and that oversized drage plate you'd be able to run 200-250m or so of 37kg and actually make use of it, or weather you'd start to destroy some other part, if not that would be quiet the LB kingi weapon for playing with the big boys on those far off remote ledges.
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Originally posted by Michael Jenkins Michael Jenkins wrote:

Originally posted by Yeahnah Yeahnah wrote:

Just looking around the net and Tiburon are doing new alloy frames for the tld series.



very interesting, i can't see a listing for the 25 single speed, but I assume a 30 2 speed's guts will swap with a 25 single's?

The internals are completely different for these two reels.
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yeah sorry, "guts" was the wrong word Embarrassed . What i meant was the whole RHS of the of the reel
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