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    Posted: 29 Aug 2025 at 1:41pm
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Anyone tried replacing the pin in the thing?
Mine broke today. I am thinking of drilling thru from the outside and see whats up. Hard to work out how they did it.
Just wondering if anyone has been down this track.
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I just had a gander at mine and it looks like during manufacture they have moulded it in place. Never heard of one breaking. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Black magic comes to the party with a replacement or at least a good discount. I'd be wary of putting a bolt through as this would likely rub against your inner thigh. 
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Thanks for the reply - was just cracking in to it. Thought I should check.
Yes I have started drilling in from one side and the pin seems firmly set in there. I have hit the pin and started trying to punch it thru. Not budging. Yes - the bolt may be a problem on the outside - unless I can recess it. That plastic looks solid in there.
That broken pin cost me a rod and a good fish, and a lure.
The rod dropped down and jammed past the broken pin  (bigger butt section higher up)- while the fish (YF) was at the boat waiting for a gaff. The base of the rod lodged itself in my nuts.  Things got awkward, then the fish bolted under the boat. Another broken rod for the collection.
Maybe I will contact BM too - good idea.
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Right - got the broken bits out. Not meant to come out, was a bit tricky. I think I can fix it. A 2 1/2x 1/4" stainless bolt will do.
Just need to find one.
Have contacted BM, just in case.
Found the ceneter bit of the pin on the floor of the boat.
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Great photo and you have done well to get that out. Thumbs Up. consider a cap screw/bolt as that would recess better. 
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How did you get it out Alan? Vice grips and a fight or drill a hole and smash it out? It looks like it was molded in.
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Yes moulded in. So.... The longer bit was still partly sticking out in the bucket. The middle bit was rolling around on the floor of the boat, the other end was flush or less than on the other side of the bucket. I marked where I thought the holes should be and drilled from the outside in - about 6mm. I was pretty close - I hit the back of both pins. The pin is 6mm, so then I drilled to 8mm for clearance and tried levering the long bit out backwards. Would not budge. So then I put some heat on it and twisted it with vice grips. That sort of freed it a bit. I was then able to lever it out with a jemmy bar in the bucket. So one side is now clear - the other is bit more tricky. Can't heat it. So I drilled out to 8mm.The drill hole was tapered - not a clean face - so I dug around the edges with a screw driver to clear the edges. Then with a stout ground off nail (punch), I punched from the clear side. Took some brute force but finally it came free. I have now drilled a 12mm outer hole each side - to accomodate a screw head and a socket for the nut on the other end. This bolt will be internal, so I just need to blank off the 12mm holes. It will do for now. I used it today with just the bolt sitting in there. Was fine. But need a longer bolt I can put a nut on.
It is not like I can walk down the road and buy another one here (Vtu). There will likely be something available - but I would rather fix this if I can.
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Ideally I might find a bolt with a 50mm shank. But prob have to wait til I get back to NZ. Meantime this will work. There is no nut on the end right now. Bolt too short. Needs another 10mm. But it may not need a nut - it is threaded in to the plastic. Just need to find a couple of 12mm blanking grommets now. But this bolt will be easy to replace if needed.
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Put some of that neadit stuff in the ends I've used it for repairing all sorts of stuff it works good
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I will have to google that.
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Originally posted by Alan L Alan L wrote:

I will have to google that.
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"Knead It" with a "K". Good maleable product with an Aqua option for wet use.
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Yes Knead It or JB Weld would work. When you do get it sorted you will want the unthreaded portion of the bolt to be where the nock of  rod butt sits. It's going to chew up the rod with any prolonged use.
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I got lucky with the right bolt in town. Cap screw/Allen head.Cap screw/Allen head) Any day you find half what you are looking for is a good day.
I think I will leave the ends open for now, no real reason to close them in. WhenI find a 12mm blanking grommet (prob NZ) I will fit that. But this is an easy change out now if I ever needed to. Can't see why I should tho.
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Nice! How have you bonded the bolt in there?
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Great work Alan. Nice seeing the photos too. kiwi ingenuity at it's best. 
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The bolt isn't 'bonded' in there. It is mounted on the same lugs the initial pin was. It probably doesn't need the nut, but I put it there in case. With a bit of soft loctite. The bolt can't move anywhere. The nut is only finger tight.
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That is really smart - nice work brother.

I hate throwing stuff away for a 'minor' defect, although this was a tad more than minor.
Bit of lateral thinking and you've saved yourself a few hundred bucks on top of it too.

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The 'fix it' generation show their skills. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Fish Addict Fish Addict wrote:

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If you 'live' in Vanuatu for some time and can't fix a heap of stuff, your life is very inconvenient and expensive.
Stuff craps out here at an alarming rate. Never seen anything like it. Weedeaters, mowers, gas water heaters, vehicles, boats , not to mention gamefishing gear. It is a constant process. My ute had a starter motor issue yesterday. Fixed thankfully. My boat had a small leak and I had to strip the hull out a couple of days ago.. I have a bunch of trailer parts I brought over in my luggage recently. When my mates get here shortly, they will bring the rest of it, along with a bunch of other stuff. Then I can replace a whole lot of rusted fittings on the trailer. It is hard work at times just keeping everything working as needed. But I have never missed a fishing day with broken stuff. 
I spend a good deal of my time, when not fishing, fixing stuff.
Unfortunately I didn't get to try the rod bucket out today. Saw a couple of cracking YF that would have given it a serious workout - but they didn't want to know about my aspirations. Next time.
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