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Me and wifey have just bought a second hand Buccaneer 565 Classic with a mind to some over nighters around the Hauraki gulf - Waiheke, Kawau, Rakino etc.

Any tips and tricks from others who have experience with this type of mission? Space will obviously be at a premium.

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Get wife to limit the lothesWink, set up something to keep due off you, I leave sun shade extension up off hard top. In terms of food double vacum pack your meat, take frozen which you can put in chilly bin, salt ice, and bottled water, smaller size, store easier, and we tend to drink more. Rubbish bags to bring everything home.
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I will watch this thread with interest. I did a few overnighters on my boat (6.1m) last autumn and plan to do a few this spring summer autumn. 
What i found. 2 chilly bins one for food and the other for fish and bait otherwise fish juices and melting ice seeps into your food no matter how careful you are.
As you get into the autumn and the nights get longer .. I buy a newspaper to read at night. When i used to do possums i would be in my tent / sleeping bag for 13 plus hours and used to take a newspaper. I also take 2 or 3 black rubbish bags. This season i will take a solar shower. 
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Another thing i found interesting .. I am on my boat for 3 days, usually. There are funny regs in the Marlborough Sounds on how many cod you can catch in one area and then transporting those fish thru another area. I checked with MoF about landing fish and got mixed answers from 3 people . In the end one fella said record with photographic evidence where you caught the fish and date the captures. Our snapper limit is 3 fish, if you are out for 3 days you can land 9 fish but again photo them, date them. I plan to cable tie the days catch and date tag the cable tie and photograph it.  I dont know if you have those sort of regs up where you are fishing.
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Originally posted by Troutzilla Troutzilla wrote:

Me and wifey have just bought a second hand Buccaneer 565 Classic with a mind to some over nighters around the Hauraki gulf - Waiheke, Kawau, Rakino etc.

Any tips and tricks from others who have experience with this type of mission? Space will obviously be at a premium.

cheers Jeremy
porta loo,any thoughts on how wifey will enjoy?gas canister stove is my preference rather than a small 4kg bottle. 2 x chilly bins as previous comments and the big trick is stay warm,nothing runs a weekend away getting wet n cold..  If porta loo a problem then start thinking about places that have public shore faccilities.Motuhehe is.Home bay Motutapu. nil at rakino. etc
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Originally posted by yknot yknot wrote:

Get wife to limit the lothesWink, set up something to keep due off you, I leave sun shade extension up off hard top. In terms of food double vacum pack your meat, take frozen which you can put in chilly bin, salt ice, and bottled water, smaller size, store easier, and we tend to drink more. Rubbish bags to bring everything home.

Yes we've already discussed the clothes LOL Good point on the dew. Might just have to take a chammy and have a quick swoop around the seats in the morning. We have a zip curtain which keeps the cabin out of the weather. Good tips on food.
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Originally posted by reel crayze reel crayze wrote:

I will watch this thread with interest. I did a few overnighters on my boat (6.1m) last autumn and plan to do a few this spring summer autumn. 
What i found. 2 chilly bins one for food and the other for fish and bait otherwise fish juices and melting ice seeps into your food no matter how careful you are.
As you get into the autumn and the nights get longer .. I buy a newspaper to read at night. When i used to do possums i would be in my tent / sleeping bag for 13 plus hours and used to take a newspaper. I also take 2 or 3 black rubbish bags. This season i will take a solar shower. 

Good shout on the 2 chilly bins! We will start in spring and summer once daylight savings kicks in so nights wont be too long initially.
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Originally posted by Pcj Pcj wrote:

Originally posted by Troutzilla Troutzilla wrote:

Me and wifey have just bought a second hand Buccaneer 565 Classic with a mind to some over nighters around the Hauraki gulf - Waiheke, Kawau, Rakino etc.

Any tips and tricks from others who have experience with this type of mission? Space will obviously be at a premium.

cheers Jeremy
porta loo,any thoughts on how wifey will enjoy?gas canister stove is my preference rather than a small 4kg bottle. 2 x chilly bins as previous comments and the big trick is stay warm,nothing runs a weekend away getting wet n cold..  If porta loo a problem then start thinking about places that have public shore faccilities.Motuhehe is.Home bay Motutapu. nil at rakino. etc

We have a proper loo on the boat which was a key feature in the purchase  process Wink yes I was thinking those cannister stoves look like the best option, good to hear they work well for you. Yep we will take plenty of warm clothes, have good sleeping bags and will pack a blanket Thumbs Up
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Me and wifey have just bought a second hand Buccaneer 565 Classic
 
When we 1st started looking around for a boat, cabin size was important for over nighters.. even several in a row for Wife and I.
Modern boats had smaller cabins. Were looking something practical around the size of a buccaneer 635 but smaller hull.
 Ended up with Commander.. 5.5m but cabin much same size as the 635.

Ist thing was re do swabs, more comfort for sleeping than sitting.. put porta toilet under the seat.
Couple railbazzer connections and bait board on the gunnels just inside the Bimini clears. Easy set up and drop for the LPG cooker using seat as kitchen bench.
Spare anchor.. loose an anchor means go home.. plus handy if not sure of sea beds type or drift.
Missus may want curtains if other boats around.


Where stay often depends on when out there even thu may have made 'plans'  always check the bay, check depth, rocks and sort where going to drop the anchor .. exactly allow for swing change of tide. eg Anita (see below) on the right has a rock, and at 1st may look not suitable

When choosing a spot.. say little bay like Anita , Bottom end of Waikeke. or Hooks, .. most bays are an extension of a gully coming down from the hills  A bush covered gully breaks up and breeze which kills a lot of chine slap. Chine slap is usually concern for the missus.. messed with noodles, sheets to stop it.. end of the day ear plugs.

Glass boats/ hulls are very warm, even in winter.

If filleting  catch or collecting shell fish each day, keep frames of smaller legal size and take pics of shell fish each day time stamped.

Cant beat waking up just before dawn, watch the sun come up over the Corros, cuppa and breakfast. Or still just dark, missus still in bed, pull anchor, drop a sb rod out the back , quietly just off idle head out to bit of a reef just off shore, drop rest of the lines,  drift down and over,  Nice cuppa breakfast, lines down in the water as the sun comes up over the corros.

And if weekend, about now a stream of boats, usually missed the actual change of light (and sun over the corros), coming up from kawakawa bay ramp way in the distance sth. Wink

Then there is the evening , long drifts, bouncing stray lines along the bottom, sun gone down over the hills...and have sorted the mooring place in the dark (and alternative just in case)

OH and check weather forecasts and know the winds, tides and currents.




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Saw this on Facebook. Great idea as the pan can't fall off the stove on a rocking boat.


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Originally posted by Steps Steps wrote:

Me and wifey have just bought a second hand Buccaneer 565 Classic
 
When we 1st started looking around for a boat, cabin size was important for over nighters.. even several in a row for Wife and I.
Modern boats had smaller cabins. Were looking something practical around the size of a buccaneer 635 but smaller hull.
 Ended up with Commander.. 5.5m but cabin much same size as the 635.

Ist thing was re do swabs, more comfort for sleeping than sitting.. put porta toilet under the seat.
Couple railbazzer connections and bait board on the gunnels just inside the Bimini clears. Easy set up and drop for the LPG cooker using seat as kitchen bench.
Spare anchor.. loose an anchor means go home.. plus handy if not sure of sea beds type or drift.
Missus may want curtains if other boats around.


Where stay often depends on when out there even thu may have made 'plans'  always check the bay, check depth, rocks and sort where going to drop the anchor .. exactly allow for swing change of tide. eg Anita (see below) on the right has a rock, and at 1st may look not suitable

When choosing a spot.. say little bay like Anita , Bottom end of Waikeke. or Hooks, .. most bays are an extension of a gully coming down from the hills  A bush covered gully breaks up and breeze which kills a lot of chine slap. Chine slap is usually concern for the missus.. messed with noodles, sheets to stop it.. end of the day ear plugs.

Glass boats/ hulls are very warm, even in winter.

If filleting  catch or collecting shell fish each day, keep frames of smaller legal size and take pics of shell fish each day time stamped.

Cant beat waking up just before dawn, watch the sun come up over the Corros, cuppa and breakfast. Or still just dark, missus still in bed, pull anchor, drop a sb rod out the back , quietly just off idle head out to bit of a reef just off shore, drop rest of the lines,  drift down and over,  Nice cuppa breakfast, lines down in the water as the sun comes up over the corros.

And if weekend, about now a stream of boats, usually missed the actual change of light (and sun over the corros), coming up from kawakawa bay ramp way in the distance sth. Wink

Then there is the evening , long drifts, bouncing stray lines along the bottom, sun gone down over the hills...and have sorted the mooring place in the dark (and alternative just in case)

OH and check weather forecasts and know the winds, tides and currents.

Thanks Steps, lots of great advice there!
 
The old man used to have a sea nymph commander and he took us over nighting around lake Taupo one christmas. Can still remember the sound and smell of the 2 stroke Johnson waking us up as he set out for for an early harl. Great boat that one, spent loads of time on it fishing off Raglan.


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Originally posted by MB MB wrote:

Saw this on Facebook. Great idea as the pan can't fall off the stove on a rocking boat.  

Looks good Thumbs Up


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Yes i also use a gas cannister cooker, flat model similar to what MB posted. 

Dew can be a bit of a problem in the morning on your sleeping bag but if you have picked your weather it soon burns off. 

Last April i was parked up in a bay in Pelorus Sound and I text a mate and said I may not catch a snapper but i bet i hear a stag roar. Within 2 minutes i heard the first roar of the evening and i caught a couple of snapper Thumbs Up. Its magic overnighting on your boat.
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Never had a issue with due or condensation.. thats sorted by cracking the hatch..good ventalition, better sleep.
 Sleeping bag(s) wife and I .. throw a sheet out, divet off the bed...done.

Yep little gas cooker like that ideal for quick cuppa... still have the 2x burner and hot plate...if going to cook up something more serious. And out on the boat , calm evening cook up something bit more serious like a venison back strap, veggies, sit back with a red wine...or several.

The old man used to have a sea nymph commander and he took us over nighting around lake Taupo one christmas. Can still remember the sound and smell of the 2 stroke Johnson waking us up as he set out for for an early harl. Great boat that one, spent loads of time on it fishing off Raglan.

Boat was originally from down Taupo.. And yep 2004 115 V4 2S johnny .. since have re powered with a 2s 150 V6 ..also from Taupo... and now fishing out of the Waikato bar And manukau harbour.
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I overnight in my Sea Nymph 566 - similar size glass boat.

A single burner gas cooker as stated previously. If you can tuck all your cooking gear, plates etc under a seat or squab then all the better. I also like to make real simple, one-pot meals such as snags and beans. Although in summer I'll take a bag of salad and a slab of salmon (or steak for the carnivores) to fry up.

I usually go away for a single night only, so I place my dishes in a rubbish bag for chucking through the dishwasher when I get home (don't really want to muck around with washing dishes on the boat if I can avoid it). A bottle of red wine to go with diner is a must in my opinion.

A bucket with a rubbish back inside makes a handy rubbish bin (for beer bottles mostly) and saves a bit of space too.

An infill between your squabs is a must, one of my bench seats does the trick and makes the cabin nice and cosy.

Lastly, I always take my little Chromebook laptop with a couple of movies or TV episodes to watch. Don't normally get through a whole movie, but still a nice way to chill in the cabin (particularly in winter) with a drink and a packet of Rashuns at the end of a day on the water.

You will love it - something magical about overnighting in a wee boat. 
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Originally posted by Troutzilla Troutzilla wrote:

Originally posted by MB MB wrote:

Saw this on Facebook. Great idea as the pan can't fall off the stove on a rocking boat.  

Looks good Thumbs Up



I’ve seen these at Bunnings as well as double burner ones with a permanent hot plate. A plastic bag with some flour in it to coat the fillets is the story and a couple of slices of bread and butter with a squirt of watties X 2 or 3 is dinner for me with a couple of cold ones.

I brought one of the square boaties fry pans from Burnsco for my cooker which Stores well out of the way under the front seat. I use my cooker on the bait board up out of the way at the back of the boat.

Railblaz do these neat little brackets to hold the front hatch open.

https://www.railblaza.com/products/boating-hatch-wedge/

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Energy use.
Night light for anchoring.
Torch. Battery versions.
LED seperate lighting from start batteries.

Being used to noise.
Lapping waves can keep you awake until your in the zone and they will lull you to sleep.

You have the chance of flat water as you can get in close to the shore.

Disposable loo paper.

Tv and hairdryers are a luxury.

Washing up liquid and tea towels.
Towels that don't smell of fish.

A toothbrush has many uses.

A small catch all toolkit.

Remembering you locked the car and the trailer.
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Originally posted by reel crayze reel crayze wrote:

Yes i also use a gas cannister cooker, flat model similar to what MB posted. 

Dew can be a bit of a problem in the morning on your sleeping bag but if you have picked your weather it soon burns off. 

Last April i was parked up in a bay in Pelorus Sound and I text a mate and said I may not catch a snapper but i bet i hear a stag roar. Within 2 minutes i heard the first roar of the evening and i caught a couple of snapper Thumbs Up. Its magic overnighting on your boat.

So good - cant wait!
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Originally posted by Kandrew Kandrew wrote:

Originally posted by Troutzilla Troutzilla wrote:

Originally posted by MB MB wrote:

Saw this on Facebook. Great idea as the pan can't fall off the stove on a rocking boat.  

Looks good Thumbs Up



I’ve seen these at Bunnings as well as double burner ones with a permanent hot plate. A plastic bag with some flour in it to coat the fillets is the story and a couple of slices of bread and butter with a squirt of watties X 2 or 3 is dinner for me with a couple of cold ones.

I brought one of the square boaties fry pans from Burnsco for my cooker which Stores well out of the way under the front seat. I use my cooker on the bait board up out of the way at the back of the boat.

Railblaz do these neat little brackets to hold the front hatch open.

https://www.railblaza.com/products/boating-hatch-wedge/


Thanks for the info, I'll check out square pans. 

Railblaza have some great stuff. Defo gonna get a couple of their starmounts installed.
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Originally posted by MATTOO MATTOO wrote:

Energy use.
Night light for anchoring.
Torch. Battery versions.
LED seperate lighting from start batteries.

Being used to noise.
Lapping waves can keep you awake until your in the zone and they will lull you to sleep.

You have the chance of flat water as you can get in close to the shore.

Disposable loo paper.

Tv and hairdryers are a luxury.

Washing up liquid and tea towels.
Towels that don't smell of fish.

A toothbrush has many uses.

A small catch all toolkit.

Remembering you locked the car and the trailer.

Thanks Mattoo,

Some great info there. 

I'll look out for an LED lamp of some sort to complement our head torches. There is a light in the boat but it runs off the battery.
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