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Topic: Small boat overnighting
Posted By: Troutzilla
Subject: Small boat overnighting
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2021 at 6:48pm
Me and wifey have just bought a second hand Buccaneer 565 Classic with a mind to some over nighters around the Hauraki gulf - Waiheke, Kawau, Rakino etc.

Any tips and tricks from others who have experience with this type of mission? Space will obviously be at a premium.

cheers Jeremy


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Posted By: yknot
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2021 at 7:19pm
Get wife to limit the lothesWink, set up something to keep due off you, I leave sun shade extension up off hard top. In terms of food double vacum pack your meat, take frozen which you can put in chilly bin, salt ice, and bottled water, smaller size, store easier, and we tend to drink more. Rubbish bags to bring everything home.

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Posted By: reel crayze
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2021 at 8:47pm
I will watch this thread with interest. I did a few overnighters on my boat (6.1m) last autumn and plan to do a few this spring summer autumn. 
What i found. 2 chilly bins one for food and the other for fish and bait otherwise fish juices and melting ice seeps into your food no matter how careful you are.
As you get into the autumn and the nights get longer .. I buy a newspaper to read at night. When i used to do possums i would be in my tent / sleeping bag for 13 plus hours and used to take a newspaper. I also take 2 or 3 black rubbish bags. This season i will take a solar shower. 


Posted By: reel crayze
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2021 at 8:56pm
Another thing i found interesting .. I am on my boat for 3 days, usually. There are funny regs in the Marlborough Sounds on how many cod you can catch in one area and then transporting those fish thru another area. I checked with MoF about landing fish and got mixed answers from 3 people . In the end one fella said record with photographic evidence where you caught the fish and date the captures. Our snapper limit is 3 fish, if you are out for 3 days you can land 9 fish but again photo them, date them. I plan to cable tie the days catch and date tag the cable tie and photograph it.  I dont know if you have those sort of regs up where you are fishing.


Posted By: Pcj
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2021 at 2:06am
Originally posted by Troutzilla Troutzilla wrote:

Me and wifey have just bought a second hand Buccaneer 565 Classic with a mind to some over nighters around the Hauraki gulf - Waiheke, Kawau, Rakino etc.

Any tips and tricks from others who have experience with this type of mission? Space will obviously be at a premium.

cheers Jeremy
porta loo,any thoughts on how wifey will enjoy?gas canister stove is my preference rather than a small 4kg bottle. 2 x chilly bins as previous comments and the big trick is stay warm,nothing runs a weekend away getting wet n cold..  If porta loo a problem then start thinking about places that have public shore faccilities.Motuhehe is.Home bay Motutapu. nil at rakino. etc


Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2021 at 8:58am
Originally posted by yknot yknot wrote:

Get wife to limit the lothesWink, set up something to keep due off you, I leave sun shade extension up off hard top. In terms of food double vacum pack your meat, take frozen which you can put in chilly bin, salt ice, and bottled water, smaller size, store easier, and we tend to drink more. Rubbish bags to bring everything home.

Yes we've already discussed the clothes LOL Good point on the dew. Might just have to take a chammy and have a quick swoop around the seats in the morning. We have a zip curtain which keeps the cabin out of the weather. Good tips on food.


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Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2021 at 9:01am
Originally posted by reel crayze reel crayze wrote:

I will watch this thread with interest. I did a few overnighters on my boat (6.1m) last autumn and plan to do a few this spring summer autumn. 
What i found. 2 chilly bins one for food and the other for fish and bait otherwise fish juices and melting ice seeps into your food no matter how careful you are.
As you get into the autumn and the nights get longer .. I buy a newspaper to read at night. When i used to do possums i would be in my tent / sleeping bag for 13 plus hours and used to take a newspaper. I also take 2 or 3 black rubbish bags. This season i will take a solar shower. 

Good shout on the 2 chilly bins! We will start in spring and summer once daylight savings kicks in so nights wont be too long initially.


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Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2021 at 9:09am
Originally posted by Pcj Pcj wrote:

Originally posted by Troutzilla Troutzilla wrote:

Me and wifey have just bought a second hand Buccaneer 565 Classic with a mind to some over nighters around the Hauraki gulf - Waiheke, Kawau, Rakino etc.

Any tips and tricks from others who have experience with this type of mission? Space will obviously be at a premium.

cheers Jeremy
porta loo,any thoughts on how wifey will enjoy?gas canister stove is my preference rather than a small 4kg bottle. 2 x chilly bins as previous comments and the big trick is stay warm,nothing runs a weekend away getting wet n cold..  If porta loo a problem then start thinking about places that have public shore faccilities.Motuhehe is.Home bay Motutapu. nil at rakino. etc

We have a proper loo on the boat which was a key feature in the purchase  process Wink yes I was thinking those cannister stoves look like the best option, good to hear they work well for you. Yep we will take plenty of warm clothes, have good sleeping bags and will pack a blanket Thumbs Up


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Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2021 at 10:37am
Me and wifey have just bought a second hand Buccaneer 565 Classic
 
When we 1st started looking around for a boat, cabin size was important for over nighters.. even several in a row for Wife and I.
Modern boats had smaller cabins. Were looking something practical around the size of a buccaneer 635 but smaller hull.
 Ended up with Commander.. 5.5m but cabin much same size as the 635.

Ist thing was re do swabs, more comfort for sleeping than sitting.. put porta toilet under the seat.
Couple railbazzer connections and bait board on the gunnels just inside the Bimini clears. Easy set up and drop for the LPG cooker using seat as kitchen bench.
Spare anchor.. loose an anchor means go home.. plus handy if not sure of sea beds type or drift.
Missus may want curtains if other boats around.


Where stay often depends on when out there even thu may have made 'plans'  always check the bay, check depth, rocks and sort where going to drop the anchor .. exactly allow for swing change of tide. eg Anita (see below) on the right has a rock, and at 1st may look not suitable

When choosing a spot.. say little bay like Anita , Bottom end of Waikeke. or Hooks, .. most bays are an extension of a gully coming down from the hills  A bush covered gully breaks up and breeze which kills a lot of chine slap. Chine slap is usually concern for the missus.. messed with noodles, sheets to stop it.. end of the day ear plugs.

Glass boats/ hulls are very warm, even in winter.

If filleting  catch or collecting shell fish each day, keep frames of smaller legal size and take pics of shell fish each day time stamped.

Cant beat waking up just before dawn, watch the sun come up over the Corros, cuppa and breakfast. Or still just dark, missus still in bed, pull anchor, drop a sb rod out the back , quietly just off idle head out to bit of a reef just off shore, drop rest of the lines,  drift down and over,  Nice cuppa breakfast, lines down in the water as the sun comes up over the corros.

And if weekend, about now a stream of boats, usually missed the actual change of light (and sun over the corros), coming up from kawakawa bay ramp way in the distance sth. Wink

Then there is the evening , long drifts, bouncing stray lines along the bottom, sun gone down over the hills...and have sorted the mooring place in the dark (and alternative just in case)

OH and check weather forecasts and know the winds, tides and currents.






Posted By: MB
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2021 at 10:57am
Saw this on Facebook. Great idea as the pan can't fall off the stove on a rocking boat.




Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2021 at 12:18pm
Originally posted by Steps Steps wrote:

Me and wifey have just bought a second hand Buccaneer 565 Classic
 
When we 1st started looking around for a boat, cabin size was important for over nighters.. even several in a row for Wife and I.
Modern boats had smaller cabins. Were looking something practical around the size of a buccaneer 635 but smaller hull.
 Ended up with Commander.. 5.5m but cabin much same size as the 635.

Ist thing was re do swabs, more comfort for sleeping than sitting.. put porta toilet under the seat.
Couple railbazzer connections and bait board on the gunnels just inside the Bimini clears. Easy set up and drop for the LPG cooker using seat as kitchen bench.
Spare anchor.. loose an anchor means go home.. plus handy if not sure of sea beds type or drift.
Missus may want curtains if other boats around.


Where stay often depends on when out there even thu may have made 'plans'  always check the bay, check depth, rocks and sort where going to drop the anchor .. exactly allow for swing change of tide. eg Anita (see below) on the right has a rock, and at 1st may look not suitable

When choosing a spot.. say little bay like Anita , Bottom end of Waikeke. or Hooks, .. most bays are an extension of a gully coming down from the hills  A bush covered gully breaks up and breeze which kills a lot of chine slap. Chine slap is usually concern for the missus.. messed with noodles, sheets to stop it.. end of the day ear plugs.

Glass boats/ hulls are very warm, even in winter.

If filleting  catch or collecting shell fish each day, keep frames of smaller legal size and take pics of shell fish each day time stamped.

Cant beat waking up just before dawn, watch the sun come up over the Corros, cuppa and breakfast. Or still just dark, missus still in bed, pull anchor, drop a sb rod out the back , quietly just off idle head out to bit of a reef just off shore, drop rest of the lines,  drift down and over,  Nice cuppa breakfast, lines down in the water as the sun comes up over the corros.

And if weekend, about now a stream of boats, usually missed the actual change of light (and sun over the corros), coming up from kawakawa bay ramp way in the distance sth. Wink

Then there is the evening , long drifts, bouncing stray lines along the bottom, sun gone down over the hills...and have sorted the mooring place in the dark (and alternative just in case)

OH and check weather forecasts and know the winds, tides and currents.

Thanks Steps, lots of great advice there!
 
The old man used to have a sea nymph commander and he took us over nighting around lake Taupo one christmas. Can still remember the sound and smell of the 2 stroke Johnson waking us up as he set out for for an early harl. Great boat that one, spent loads of time on it fishing off Raglan.




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Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2021 at 12:19pm
Originally posted by MB MB wrote:

Saw this on Facebook. Great idea as the pan can't fall off the stove on a rocking boat.  

Looks good Thumbs Up




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Posted By: reel crayze
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2021 at 12:31pm
Yes i also use a gas cannister cooker, flat model similar to what MB posted. 

Dew can be a bit of a problem in the morning on your sleeping bag but if you have picked your weather it soon burns off. 

Last April i was parked up in a bay in Pelorus Sound and I text a mate and said I may not catch a snapper but i bet i hear a stag roar. Within 2 minutes i heard the first roar of the evening and i caught a couple of snapper Thumbs Up. Its magic overnighting on your boat.


Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2021 at 1:07pm
Never had a issue with due or condensation.. thats sorted by cracking the hatch..good ventalition, better sleep.
 Sleeping bag(s) wife and I .. throw a sheet out, divet off the bed...done.

Yep little gas cooker like that ideal for quick cuppa... still have the 2x burner and hot plate...if going to cook up something more serious. And out on the boat , calm evening cook up something bit more serious like a venison back strap, veggies, sit back with a red wine...or several.

The old man used to have a sea nymph commander and he took us over nighting around lake Taupo one christmas. Can still remember the sound and smell of the 2 stroke Johnson waking us up as he set out for for an early harl. Great boat that one, spent loads of time on it fishing off Raglan.

Boat was originally from down Taupo.. And yep 2004 115 V4 2S johnny .. since have re powered with a 2s 150 V6 ..also from Taupo... and now fishing out of the Waikato bar And manukau harbour.


Posted By: Mossy
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2021 at 2:32pm
I overnight in my Sea Nymph 566 - similar size glass boat.

A single burner gas cooker as stated previously. If you can tuck all your cooking gear, plates etc under a seat or squab then all the better. I also like to make real simple, one-pot meals such as snags and beans. Although in summer I'll take a bag of salad and a slab of salmon (or steak for the carnivores) to fry up.

I usually go away for a single night only, so I place my dishes in a rubbish bag for chucking through the dishwasher when I get home (don't really want to muck around with washing dishes on the boat if I can avoid it). A bottle of red wine to go with diner is a must in my opinion.

A bucket with a rubbish back inside makes a handy rubbish bin (for beer bottles mostly) and saves a bit of space too.

An infill between your squabs is a must, one of my bench seats does the trick and makes the cabin nice and cosy.

Lastly, I always take my little Chromebook laptop with a couple of movies or TV episodes to watch. Don't normally get through a whole movie, but still a nice way to chill in the cabin (particularly in winter) with a drink and a packet of Rashuns at the end of a day on the water.

You will love it - something magical about overnighting in a wee boat. 


Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2021 at 3:59pm
Originally posted by Troutzilla Troutzilla wrote:

Originally posted by MB MB wrote:

Saw this on Facebook. Great idea as the pan can't fall off the stove on a rocking boat.  

Looks good Thumbs Up



I’ve seen these at Bunnings as well as double burner ones with a permanent hot plate. A plastic bag with some flour in it to coat the fillets is the story and a couple of slices of bread and butter with a squirt of watties X 2 or 3 is dinner for me with a couple of cold ones.

I brought one of the square boaties fry pans from Burnsco for my cooker which Stores well out of the way under the front seat. I use my cooker on the bait board up out of the way at the back of the boat.

Railblaz do these neat little brackets to hold the front hatch open.

https://www.railblaza.com/products/boating-hatch-wedge/



Posted By: MATTOO
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2021 at 4:27pm
Energy use.
Night light for anchoring.
Torch. Battery versions.
LED seperate lighting from start batteries.

Being used to noise.
Lapping waves can keep you awake until your in the zone and they will lull you to sleep.

You have the chance of flat water as you can get in close to the shore.

Disposable loo paper.

Tv and hairdryers are a luxury.

Washing up liquid and tea towels.
Towels that don't smell of fish.

A toothbrush has many uses.

A small catch all toolkit.

Remembering you locked the car and the trailer.

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Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2021 at 6:10pm
Originally posted by reel crayze reel crayze wrote:

Yes i also use a gas cannister cooker, flat model similar to what MB posted. 

Dew can be a bit of a problem in the morning on your sleeping bag but if you have picked your weather it soon burns off. 

Last April i was parked up in a bay in Pelorus Sound and I text a mate and said I may not catch a snapper but i bet i hear a stag roar. Within 2 minutes i heard the first roar of the evening and i caught a couple of snapper Thumbs Up. Its magic overnighting on your boat.

So good - cant wait!


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Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2021 at 6:13pm
Originally posted by Kandrew Kandrew wrote:

Originally posted by Troutzilla Troutzilla wrote:

Originally posted by MB MB wrote:

Saw this on Facebook. Great idea as the pan can't fall off the stove on a rocking boat.  

Looks good Thumbs Up



I’ve seen these at Bunnings as well as double burner ones with a permanent hot plate. A plastic bag with some flour in it to coat the fillets is the story and a couple of slices of bread and butter with a squirt of watties X 2 or 3 is dinner for me with a couple of cold ones.

I brought one of the square boaties fry pans from Burnsco for my cooker which Stores well out of the way under the front seat. I use my cooker on the bait board up out of the way at the back of the boat.

Railblaz do these neat little brackets to hold the front hatch open.

https://www.railblaza.com/products/boating-hatch-wedge/


Thanks for the info, I'll check out square pans. 

Railblaza have some great stuff. Defo gonna get a couple of their starmounts installed.


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Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2021 at 6:15pm
Originally posted by MATTOO MATTOO wrote:

Energy use.
Night light for anchoring.
Torch. Battery versions.
LED seperate lighting from start batteries.

Being used to noise.
Lapping waves can keep you awake until your in the zone and they will lull you to sleep.

You have the chance of flat water as you can get in close to the shore.

Disposable loo paper.

Tv and hairdryers are a luxury.

Washing up liquid and tea towels.
Towels that don't smell of fish.

A toothbrush has many uses.

A small catch all toolkit.

Remembering you locked the car and the trailer.

Thanks Mattoo,

Some great info there. 

I'll look out for an LED lamp of some sort to complement our head torches. There is a light in the boat but it runs off the battery.


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Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2021 at 10:39am
Railblaza have some great stuff. Defo gonna get a couple of their starmounts installed.

If going the bait board/ cooker as we do.. the rail blazers on their own are not stable enough.. I have a small bit of wood with V in it screwed to underside of the bait board so the  dowel fits into it without slipping, then down to inside the self that goes up the side of the boat. Its at an angle away from feet that could kick it.
 Between the cooker and the bimini clears have a thin sheet of clear acrylic to divert any heat. Heat not the problem thought it would .


Railblaz do these neat little brackets to hold the front hatch open.?
If hatch still sealed ith catchs loose.. a block of wood or the book the missus isnt reading.
Only need it cracked a little.

Head lamps are a bloody pain in the butt.. hate them. Yep great to work with , then your m8 looks up at you to say something... blinded.  Couple good strip light each side of the bimmini for the deck. just stand slightly one side if working on the main bait board.
Cabin light also needed.. this warm led.. white is just too bright.. I have gone back to the double fluro on the wall. And a portable desk reading light for the missus.. a must.

Pads, movies, TV .. nah enough to do.. get a few live baits.. things like bait fish come in to just the edge of the under water lights (or lights shining down into the water) play at catching in the net.
Sb rods out .. casting into bay for squid.. have a good sided open top bucket for that.
 Summer water is warm, bit of a dive/ mask snorkle around the boat/ shore.
 Take a tabett or phone to watch movies.. nah far too much happens, if u want it to.

Might strike it lucky where the water with the slightest ripple fluoresces up.. thats amazing espec if have bait fish feeding around the boat... and or if go for a swim in it.


Posted By: Pcj
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2021 at 12:13pm
Best part of overnighting is when you get a gentle northly wind and the phospherous in the water when you take that midnight pee.Always facinates me,and yellow tail underneath.


Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2021 at 12:56pm
Nice and lots of great options here. Great reading. Thanks

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Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2021 at 1:13pm
when you get a gentle northly wind and the phospherous in the water

 Is the phosphors and a northly related..I have no idea other than once in while it happens and when does really impressive. Came home late, 10pm ish up the Waiheke channel one night with phosphorous in the wake..


Posted By: Big -Dave
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2021 at 4:01pm
I remember my kids all going for a midnight skinny dip ogg the otautu bat wharf because there was phosphorus in the water, ,
I believe it is a certain plankton?

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Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2021 at 5:40pm
One of the good things the Buccaneer 565 Classic has a big volume cabin, fished out a few of them over the years and they are a great boat.

How are you planning to cover up at night, I think some of the 565 had wooden lover doors fitted to them, or you could get a dropdown curtain into the cabin, or use your road cover.

If you have a the stainless Bimini they come with you could get some curtains made to go around the boat, camper covers they call them . My mate had these made for his which cost a bit but he could stand up at night and also have an extra person sleeping on the floor on an air bed. Check with Buccaneer they have a lot of aftermarket accessories available.

Also if it’s got the fold open king and queen that could be a good place to setup you cooker.

This one has the factory cabin opening that you can fit doors to, but the curtain on this one looks like it works fine.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/listing/3146830909" rel="nofollow - https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/listing/3146830909


Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2021 at 6:06pm
Just remember the one my mate in Cambridge had with the camper covers had small table that went into a fitting in the floor. Good prep area and his cooker went on the clean bait board. Underfloor fuel tank with a breather and filler outside the boat.


Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2021 at 6:09pm
I made a set of folding doors to the cabin of the commander..
 Yep great for the ladies  using the toilet.. but at night 2 adults, even with hatch cracked was rather warm.
Ended up hanging the towels to dry over the stainless hand rail that across the dash front..

Oh before buying a toilet, one of those portable ones with bottom compartment. There are 2 heights.
 Measure the height under  the seat you intend to drop it in.
If too high, not good
 If too low, bit cheaper and easy to raise it to usable level with a small wooden frame under it to raise it up.Wink

Dont ask how I know to measure 1st ....


Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2021 at 6:35pm
If you read back through the thread the boat has a factory fitted toilet, these boats are a current model and have been made for years so extras like doors cookers and toilets have been well sorted by the factory.


Posted By: Pcj
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2021 at 7:48pm
Originally posted by Big -Dave Big -Dave wrote:

I remember my kids all going for a midnight skinny dip ogg the otautu bat wharf because there was phosphorus in the water, ,
I believe it is a certain plankton?
Think you are correct.Just from observations never seen it in southerly wind direction always next day wind is N or NE. observed over 30yrs I suppose. Did a yacht race from Orakie wharf 9.00am start to Cow n calf.arrived 5.00pm wind died and we drifted towards little Barrier,wind NE picked up about 3.00am and you have never seen 5 people literally sh#t themselves,as a roar went past us water light up.A group of dolphins must of woke up or we disturbed them .Hell that was a scare in pitch darkness.Impressive but scary..


Posted By: Schampy
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2021 at 9:47pm
Originally posted by Pcj Pcj wrote:

Originally posted by Big -Dave Big -Dave wrote:

I remember my kids all going for a midnight skinny dip ogg the otautu bat wharf because there was phosphorus in the water, ,
I believe it is a certain plankton?
Think you are correct.Just from observations never seen it in southerly wind direction always next day wind is N or NE. observed over 30yrs I suppose. Did a yacht race from Orakie wharf 9.00am start to Cow n calf.arrived 5.00pm wind died and we drifted towards little Barrier,wind NE picked up about 3.00am and you have never seen 5 people literally sh#t themselves,as a roar went past us water light up.A group of dolphins must of woke up or we disturbed them .Hell that was a scare in pitch darkness.Impressive but scary..


Had the same thing happen to us late one night when fishing off Matauri Bay  years ago.A ever increasing roar of water coming closer and closer in pitch blackness.
Thought it was a ship... but no lights, possibly a some sort of tidal wave?... we just stood there in the darkness  waiting to be hit by something bloody massive. we had nothing but head lamps. Suddenly a huge school of Dolphins in hunting mode burned straight past us at full speed. They simply headed straight in, did a lap of the bay then burned back past us again 10 minutes later.
Really bizarre to say the least. None of the playful stuff you see during the day from them... just balls out full speed ahead.


Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2021 at 10:12pm
Originally posted by Kandrew Kandrew wrote:

One of the good things the Buccaneer 565 Classic has a big volume cabin, fished out a few of them over the years and they are a great boat.

How are you planning to cover up at night, I think some of the 565 had wooden lover doors fitted to them, or you could get a dropdown curtain into the cabin, or use your road cover.

If you have a the stainless Bimini they come with you could get some curtains made to go around the boat, camper covers they call them . My mate had these made for his which cost a bit but he could stand up at night and also have an extra person sleeping on the floor on an air bed. Check with Buccaneer they have a lot of aftermarket accessories available.

Also if it’s got the fold open king and queen that could be a good place to setup you cooker.

This one has the factory cabin opening that you can fit doors to, but the curtain on this one looks like it works fine.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/listing/3146830909" rel="nofollow - https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/listing/3146830909

Yes ours has a zip in cover for the cabin entrance which will give us shelter at night Thumbs Up but like the sounder of the camper covers



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Posted By: Big -Dave
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2021 at 11:36pm
I'm in the process of rebuilding the back k end of my boat at the moment, and I have chosen to keep the stainless frame that goes up and over the transom as it not only is useful as a wake board/ ski point, but it can support a cover stretched out from the Bimini.
Planning to get a cover made at some point that attaches to the bimini and attaches to the rear frame, with sides and a rear as well.

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Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2021 at 1:05pm
Originally posted by Big -Dave Big -Dave wrote:

I'm in the process of rebuilding the back k end of my boat at the moment, and I have chosen to keep the stainless frame that goes up and over the transom as it not only is useful as a wake board/ ski point, but it can support a cover stretched out from the Bimini.
Planning to get a cover made at some point that attaches to the bimini and attaches to the rear frame, with sides and a rear as well.

Is this the stainless A-frame? If so we have the same.
Have you come up with a better way of mounting a bait board? Im not a fan of the one we have which drops over the  A frame. Takes up way too much cockpit space...


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Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2021 at 2:32pm
I recon having a bbq and a fire on the beach late in the day is a great way to go then you can go anchor up for the night. There’s several ways to anchor a boat so the tide doesn’t go out and leave you hi and dry. I’ve seen guys using 2 anchor systems where they have a rope running out from the beach to an anchor so they can pull the boat out into deeper water, then pull it back in again when they’re ready to go. Mate of mine has one of these setups that he’s copied off YouTube works well.

I’ve just got a cheap inflatable paddle board from burnsco, I drop the family and all the gear off pump the board on the beach head out and anchor up then paddle in to beach. Paddle out to get the boat come in load all the crap into the boat let the board down roll up and chuck in the boat and gone. No problems.

A little roll up inflatable would be handy as well.


Posted By: RockCrashing
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2021 at 3:14pm
Originally posted by Kandrew Kandrew wrote:

I recon having a bbq and a fire on the beach late in the day is a great way to go then you can go anchor up for the night. There’s several ways to anchor a boat so the tide doesn’t go out and leave you hi and dry. I’ve seen guys using 2 anchor systems where they have a rope running out from the beach to an anchor so they can pull the boat out into deeper water, then pull it back in again when they’re ready to go. Mate of mine has one of these setups that he’s copied off YouTube works well.

I’ve just got a cheap inflatable paddle board from burnsco, I drop the family and all the gear off pump the board on the beach head out and anchor up then paddle in to beach. Paddle out to get the boat come in load all the crap into the boat let the board down roll up and chuck in the boat and gone. No problems.

A little roll up inflatable would be handy as well.

I also have paddle board and been using that as a tender between anchored boat and campsites, shattered bays, not ideal. 
I seriously look at inflatables but have decided to get one of those for this summer, hope can get one of those funky colours :)

  
      





Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2021 at 3:20pm
Originally posted by RockCrashing RockCrashing wrote:

Originally posted by Kandrew Kandrew wrote:

I recon having a bbq and a fire on the beach late in the day is a great way to go then you can go anchor up for the night. There’s several ways to anchor a boat so the tide doesn’t go out and leave you hi and dry. I’ve seen guys using 2 anchor systems where they have a rope running out from the beach to an anchor so they can pull the boat out into deeper water, then pull it back in again when they’re ready to go. Mate of mine has one of these setups that he’s copied off YouTube works well.

I’ve just got a cheap inflatable paddle board from burnsco, I drop the family and all the gear off pump the board on the beach head out and anchor up then paddle in to beach. Paddle out to get the boat come in load all the crap into the boat let the board down roll up and chuck in the boat and gone. No problems.

A little roll up inflatable would be handy as well.


I also have paddle board and been using that as a tender between anchored boat and campsites, shattered bays, not ideal. 
I seriously look at inflatables but have decided to get one of those for this summer, hope can get one of those funky colours :)

  
      



Good idea would you tie it up on the cabin?


Posted By: RockCrashing
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2021 at 3:27pm
Yep, on roof top.. and only 30kg.
Always worry about rocks with inflatables.


Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2021 at 3:49pm
Agreed mate, rib would be a bit heavier as well. Don’t use mine often, but easier than swimming.


Posted By: spin king
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2021 at 8:31pm
Originally posted by RockCrashing RockCrashing wrote:

Originally posted by Kandrew Kandrew wrote:

I recon having a bbq and a fire on the beach late in the day is a great way to go then you can go anchor up for the night. There’s several ways to anchor a boat so the tide doesn’t go out and leave you hi and dry. I’ve seen guys using 2 anchor systems where they have a rope running out from the beach to an anchor so they can pull the boat out into deeper water, then pull it back in again when they’re ready to go. Mate of mine has one of these setups that he’s copied off YouTube works well.

I’ve just got a cheap inflatable paddle board from burnsco, I drop the family and all the gear off pump the board on the beach head out and anchor up then paddle in to beach. Paddle out to get the boat come in load all the crap into the boat let the board down roll up and chuck in the boat and gone. No problems.

A little roll up inflatable would be handy as well.


I also have paddle board and been using that as a tender between anchored boat and campsites, shattered bays, not ideal. 
I seriously look at inflatables but have decided to get one of those for this summer, hope can get one of those funky colours :)

  
      




give Galloway a ring before buying and see if they have 2nds....


Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2021 at 9:20am
For a 5.5 or 6m  not quite as practical.

A little roll up inflatable would be handy as well. Thumbs Up
 Have a elcheapo inflatable , not much more than a toy if need.
 The duel anchor system works a treat. For beach or dropping off onto rocks.  Also doubles if wish to anchor close to rocks, or up a gutt for lunch/swim/ dive.

 Fires on beaches is pushing not to get growled these days.
 Doesnt take much to drop the canister cooker off of small type weber set up. Couple sleeping bags as well... and dont forget the porta loo.


Posted By: Big -Dave
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2021 at 10:43am
Originally posted by Troutzilla Troutzilla wrote:

Originally posted by Big -Dave Big -Dave wrote:

I'm in the process of rebuilding the back k end of my boat at the moment, and I have chosen to keep the stainless frame that goes up and over the transom as it not only is useful as a wake board/ ski point, but it can support a cover stretched out from the Bimini.
Planning to get a cover made at some point that attaches to the bimini and attaches to the rear frame, with sides and a rear as well.


Is this the stainless A-frame? If so we have the same.
Have you come up with a better way of mounting a bait board? Im not a fan of the one we have which drops over the  A frame. Takes up way too much cockpit space...


No, it's much bigger, 6 foot high off the floor and full width, pops in two holes that I keep stainless fod holders in, pull them out, drop the long poles in and a cross bar across the tops. I pulled the boat out the other day to get the alignment right and mark the bottom panels that keep the poles straight.
There is a central island piece in the middle for the bait board to go on to of. I will put a ski pole on the back of that as well.

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Posted By: Big -Dave
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2021 at 10:49am
For the anchoring, I've put a remote on the anchor winch, so I can drop anchor, back in to the beach, u load, tie a rope to the back with a small anchor, and use the winch to pull the boat back out.

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Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2021 at 1:02pm
Originally posted by Steps Steps wrote:

For a 5.5 or 6m  not quite as practical.

A little roll up inflatable would be handy as well.
Thumbs Up

 Have a elcheapo inflatable , not much more than a toy if need.
 The duel anchor system works a treat. For beach or dropping off onto rocks.  Also doubles if wish to anchor close to rocks, or up a gutt for lunch/swim/ dive.

 Fires on beaches is pushing not to get growled these days.
 Doesnt take much to drop the canister cooker off of small type weber set up. Couple sleeping bags as well... and dont forget the porta loo.
Yep agreed fires on the beach are frowned upon nowadays but meat tastes so much better when cooked over flames.


Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2021 at 1:04pm
Originally posted by Big -Dave Big -Dave wrote:

Originally posted by Troutzilla Troutzilla wrote:

Originally posted by Big -Dave Big -Dave wrote:

I'm in the process of rebuilding the back k end of my boat at the moment, and I have chosen to keep the stainless frame that goes up and over the transom as it not only is useful as a wake board/ ski point, but it can support a cover stretched out from the Bimini.
Planning to get a cover made at some point that attaches to the bimini and attaches to the rear frame, with sides and a rear as well.


Is this the stainless A-frame? If so we have the same.
Have you come up with a better way of mounting a bait board? Im not a fan of the one we have which drops over the  A frame. Takes up way too much cockpit space...


No, it's much bigger, 6 foot high off the floor and full width, pops in two holes that I keep stainless fod holders in, pull them out, drop the long poles in and a cross bar across the tops. I pulled the boat out the other day to get the alignment right and mark the bottom panels that keep the poles straight.
There is a central island piece in the middle for the bait board to go on to of. I will put a ski pole on the back of that as well.
Wow that’s a major outbourd pod extension.


Posted By: spin king
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2021 at 1:34pm
@troutzilla, j dog put a pic of your new boat up man


Posted By: Big -Dave
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2021 at 4:05pm
Originally posted by Kandrew Kandrew wrote:

Originally posted by Big -Dave Big -Dave wrote:

Originally posted by Troutzilla Troutzilla wrote:

Originally posted by Big -Dave Big -Dave wrote:

I'm in the process of rebuilding the back k end of my boat at the moment, and I have chosen to keep the stainless frame that goes up and over the transom as it not only is useful as a wake board/ ski point, but it can support a cover stretched out from the Bimini.
Planning to get a cover made at some point that attaches to the bimini and attaches to the rear frame, with sides and a rear as well.


Is this the stainless A-frame? If so we have the same.
Have you come up with a better way of mounting a bait board? Im not a fan of the one we have which drops over the  A frame. Takes up way too much cockpit space...


No, it's much bigger, 6 foot high off the floor and full width, pops in two holes that I keep stainless fod holders in, pull them out, drop the long poles in and a cross bar across the tops. I pulled the boat out the other day to get the alignment right and mark the bottom panels that keep the poles straight.
There is a central island piece in the middle for the bait board to go on to of. I will put a ski pole on the back of that as well.
Wow that’s a major outbourd pod extension.

I had this on it before, got sick of climbing over the back

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Posted By: Schampy
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2021 at 4:36pm
Big Dave..... I too have trouble getting a leg over as I get older.
keep the build pics coming too mate. 


Posted By: Big -Dave
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2021 at 4:39pm
I'll stick a thread up.. And pictures

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Posted By: MATTOO
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2021 at 5:18pm
I keep a few tin foil barbecues that is a pack all inclusive.
Once only use but great for the beach or baitboard.

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Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2021 at 5:39pm
Originally posted by spin king spin king wrote:

@troutzilla, j dog put a pic of your new boat up man

Hey Terry, hows things? Here's the new sled. One from the maiden voyage to Motutapu. Second one from the yard.




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Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2021 at 7:20pm
Originally posted by MATTOO MATTOO wrote:

I keep a few tin foil barbecues that is a pack all inclusive.
Once only use but great for the beach or baitboard.
cheap enough only $5 each at M10


Posted By: spin king
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2021 at 8:27pm
Originally posted by Troutzilla Troutzilla wrote:

Originally posted by spin king spin king wrote:

@troutzilla, j dog put a pic of your new boat up man


Hey Terry, hows things? Here's the new sled. One from the maiden voyage to Motutapu. Second one from the yard.



beauddyyy!!!!!! looking forward to a fish ha


Posted By: MATTOO
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2021 at 5:11pm
You never mentioned you carried a third party.

Although problematical during anchor, with training could make an excellent trolling teaser, particularly first time up with all that flailing around.

Rig looks great.

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Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2021 at 10:16pm
Originally posted by MATTOO MATTOO wrote:

You never mentioned you carried a third party.

Although problematical during anchor, with training could make an excellent trolling teaser, particularly first time up with all that flailing around.

Rig looks great.

Oh my first mate, he's still a puppy and I'm hopeful he'll take to the salty life. Seems to like the boat so far...



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Posted By: Perchase
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2021 at 9:48am
We’ve done a few overnights on my trailer boat and something I found handy was my handheld Garmin gps. I discovered it had an anchor drift alarm. Very reassuring and good to be able to turn sounder chart plotter off and not waste your start battery. Another thing I’ve considered if you’re out for a few days is to take the car battery and jumper leads along just in case.... any thoughts on jump starting a boat engine? My new boat has a 2015 4 stroke Suzuki, is there a risk it could fry the electrics?


Posted By: Pcj
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2021 at 9:53am
Rather than straight cables why not get a set with a protector in them,handy to jump start cars without frying electrics or get a jump start pack,better than removing car battery.


Posted By: Perchase
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2021 at 4:55pm
I’ve not used those power packs but my brother said they’re a bit gutless? And I can just imagine the day I need it it’ll not be fully charged... me being me. I was thinking the car battery because I know it’s fully charged, and it’s free, and if the cars left at the ramp overnight it should be there when you get home,


Posted By: MATTOO
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2021 at 5:19pm
Perchase,

One of the developments of recent times are the amazing, cool and seemingly never ending plethora of necessary tools that use energy.

Although ancient I'm a big user.
I love all these tools and more importantly I use them.

My point here is I've really had to upgrade my thinking around power management.

There are a lot of options in this realm.
They do cost.
In fact they can be down right expensive in energy consumption and cost install and purchase if your away for more than two days.

We are now operating very small to medium sized to oversize trailer boats.
With the energy use of a launch.

If you learn to recognise this it will help you keep out of trouble on the water by understanding your energy use.

Hope that helps you and others consider this so they can enjoy there great tools.


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Posted By: johnybegood
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2021 at 5:35pm
My partner and I have done countless overnighters in our Fyran 580 - even did 2 weeks touring up the coast from whangarei to spirits bay, overnighting then coming in and driving the trailer boat up to the next ramp etc.

Biggest recommendations:
  • comfy squabs and plenty of blankets/sleeping bags even if they're to go under you
  • two chillybins, one for food one for any fish if your keeping any
  • fresh water tanks and shower. We started in summer and just used those cheap camping showers. Now purchased a gasmate califont for hot water showers (great after diving)
  • BBQ for cooking - we had our bait station built to size specific for a cooker
  • Jump start battery - just in case, takes up as much room as a book
  • Drop down canopy from bimini for privacy and enclosing the cabin (great on smaller boats) and ours extends out as a bimini extension
  • GPS/plotter anchor drag alarm
Kawau is great as you can go to the fishing club, grab some food, drink and use a bathroom.





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Posted By: Mr Moritz
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2021 at 6:20pm
Originally posted by Troutzilla Troutzilla wrote:

Snap. Well pretty close anyways (My boat)





Originally posted by spin king spin king wrote:

@troutzilla, j dog put a pic of your new boat up man

Hey Terry, hows things? Here's the new sled. One from the maiden voyage to Motutapu. Second one from the yard.




Posted By: krow
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2021 at 7:39pm
Originally posted by Perchase Perchase wrote:

We’ve done a few overnights on my trailer boat and something I found handy was my handheld Garmin gps. I discovered it had an anchor drift alarm. Very reassuring and good to be able to turn sounder chart plotter off and not waste your start battery. Another thing I’ve considered if you’re out for a few days is to take the car battery and jumper leads along just in case.... any thoughts on jump starting a boat engine? My new boat has a 2015 4 stroke Suzuki, is there a risk it could fry the electrics?
I like itClap I'll check if my old Garmin has this function. I have one of those small jump starters in the boat and yep mine stays charged for months and months, Never used it in the boat so far but I'm confident it will do the job on my 135hp. I've started the ute with it and my old motor. They are just amazing things and you wonder how the hell such a small thing can pack such a powerful punch. They are far from gutless. Also have 2 batteries (house and start) these days. 
For cooking I have a removable passenger seat and the cooker slides back onto the mount. Works a treat and is somewhat out of the wind. Having a hot meal and coffee is gold. 


Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2021 at 9:56am
Had a supercheap  yellow jumpstarter for yrs, turned over the 2S 115 nps .. after running the cabin lights anchor lights the lowrance, few other bits in pieces.
 Did just for peace of mind to know rather than think it would.
 Finally died not long ago.
 Now have a small battery unit with built in jumper leads...
Even better..
Never put them on a std battery charger thu.. the must be on their own charger and be recharged slow and corectly for long life.

Spare battery on a boat, at all times is a must.. Coast guard, as far as I know dont do jump starts like the AA.
Over the yrs had 2 batteries finally die at sea. !st sign is the trim slows down if dont notice the voltage drop on the gps unit.


Posted By: spin king
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2021 at 10:13pm
heres a good vid https://youtu.be/vcBCIpL35G0" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/vcBCIpL35G0


Posted By: Pcj
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 5:07am
Originally posted by Steps Steps wrote:

Had a supercheap  yellow jumpstarter for yrs, turned over the 2S 115 nps .. after running the cabin lights anchor lights the lowrance, few other bits in pieces.
 Did just for peace of mind to know rather than think it would.
 Finally died not long ago.
 Now have a small battery unit with built in jumper leads...
Even better..
Never put them on a std battery charger thu.. the must be on their own charger and be recharged slow and corectly for long life.

Spare battery on a boat, at all times is a must.. Coast guard, as far as I know dont do jump starts like the AA.
Over the yrs had 2 batteries finally die at sea. !st sign is the trim slows down if dont notice the voltage drop on the gps unit.
You havent read terms and conditions of membership??
Your Coastguard Membership means we're here to help when you need us on the water, and help you get the best out of your boating safely with a whole range of safety and information benefits. From a simple jump start to a full blown emergency, we're your best mates out on the water. Coastguard.
https://www.boatingeducation.org.nz/join-coastguard/#:~:text=Your%20Coastguard%20Membership%20means%20we,Coastguard." rel="nofollow -



Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 9:28am
Have you actually been out and a battery died.. know it and called CG?
 Or anyone who has had a jump start?
You get a tow home...
It doesnt mention how they deal with thing issues..
Same goes for run out of fuel.. a tow home.


Posted By: SaltyC
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 9:45am
Coastguard has definitely jump started more boats over the years than they have towed home. Prior to jump start battery packs being available the rescue kit  on every coastguard duty vessel, private or coastguard owned, included a set of of heavy duty, very long, jump start cables. Still have a set on my boat from those times. 


Posted By: Pcj
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 9:46am
Originally posted by Steps Steps wrote:

Have you actually been out and a battery died.. know it and called CG?
 Or anyone who has had a jump start?
You get a tow home...
It doesnt mention how they deal with thing issues..
Same goes for run out of fuel.. a tow home.
Sorry steps you are completely wrong. they will jump start are you a member?? Not going to argue with a expert of all matters.


Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 9:59am
Originally posted by Mr Moritz Mr Moritz wrote:

Originally posted by Troutzilla Troutzilla wrote:


Great looking rig! 

Snap. Well pretty close anyways (My boat)





Originally posted by spin king spin king wrote:

@troutzilla, j dog put a pic of your new boat up man

Hey Terry, hows things? Here's the new sled. One from the maiden voyage to Motutapu. Second one from the yard.




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Posted By: Troutzilla
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 9:59am
Originally posted by spin king spin king wrote:

heres a good vid https://youtu.be/vcBCIpL35G0" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/vcBCIpL35G0

Thanks Terry - good watch that!


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Posted By: Kandrew
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 10:58am
Good vid makes me want a bigger boat


Posted By: Steps
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 11:17am
Sorry steps you are completely wrong. they will jump start are you a member?? Not going to argue with a expert of all matters.

 Stand corrected...
Been a CG menber for last decade or so ans also way back in the 70s.
 We had a battery die in the Waiheke channel fe yrs back.. no jumper and got towed home.
 Things do change.


Posted By: Dagwood
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2021 at 12:19pm
Most of the Rescue Vessels now carry jump packs - some are the large grunty 12 & 24 volt packs. 

Normal procedure would include a check to make sure it's safe to use them - any dodgy looking wiring or sign of fuel fumes etc and it would more than likely be put away in favour of a tow.

Skipper of the vessel being assisted would normally then be heavily involved to ensure they're 100% happy with it's use to ensure the responsibility for any potential damage remains with them.


Posted By: Big -Dave
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2021 at 9:39am
Originally posted by Mr Moritz Mr Moritz wrote:

Originally posted by Troutzilla Troutzilla wrote:

Snap. Well pretty close anyways (My boat)





Originally posted by spin king spin king wrote:

@troutzilla, j dog put a pic of your new boat up man


Hey Terry, hows things? Here's the new sled. One from the maiden voyage to Motutapu. Second one from the yard.





Is it just me, or is that boat trailer bent at the back?

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Posted By: Schampy
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2021 at 10:41am
You could be right. Not uncommon for the arse end of a galve trailer to get a wee bit of brewers droop as the years go by. Theres certainly a lot of weight pushing down on what is a cantilevered piece of box section.
The big gemini inflatable that is used to go out to the Rainbow warrior wreck from Matauri bay had a trailer with a 6 inch bend in it.
Geez that thing had to deal with some weight though... Fat divers, tanks , waves over the stern all at the same time- daily.
It was remarkable that it held together. It was the first time I have ever seen the "S' hook that goes through the bow eye get straightened out under pressure.


Posted By: Keithal
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2021 at 1:16pm
Originally posted by Big -Dave Big -Dave wrote:

Originally posted by Mr Moritz Mr Moritz wrote:

Originally posted by Troutzilla Troutzilla wrote:

Snap. Well pretty close anyways (My boat)





Originally posted by spin king spin king wrote:

@troutzilla, j dog put a pic of your new boat up man


Hey Terry, hows things? Here's the new sled. One from the maiden voyage to Motutapu. Second one from the yard.





Is it just me, or is that boat trailer bent at the back?



Optical illusion
It's the section that is boxed out to house the lights



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