After a bit a advice please, I'm looking to get one of the new Saragosa's for my stickbait rod and wondering whether to go for the 10k or 20k.
Rod is a Tenryu Spike Tuna, specs are PE 4-8, max drag 15kg. I'll prob run 80lb Jerry Brown on it.
The reported max drag on the 10k is 15kg so wondering if that would be a better fit, and lighter reel as well.
Opinions/advice appreciated, chur.

20K way too big to cast all day, 10K a much better idea, if it's high ratio even better. 60lb JB hollow is more than enough (actual breaking strength 84lb from memory). 

Im Assuming Aaron, your referring to the older model Saragossa? 

Weight is a problem with all the reels if you are trying to get best combo of the drag weight, line capacity and reel weight unless you go to the new CI4 material.

saffayakker wrote: All the new  10k to 25 k Saragosas to slow for top water fishing. I am runing a 10 k at the moment with 60lb JB hallow. It just just fast enough for popper fishing. I am not into stick baiting but it look like you need more than 4.9 gear ratio for stick baiting. Not sure why Shimano ever drop the Twin Power as it a brilliant reel, much better than the current Saragosas.

I did read that……. Cheers for the response. 

Some good sound points there. So I'll let you all into my dilemma, I've got a $500 voucher to use at a tackle store, and I'm looking to upgrade my topwater setup, currently running the above rod with a Stradic 8000. Will be looking to get a new rod in the next 12 months or so.
Do I,
A) buy a Saragosa 10k which I'd pay nothing for
Or
B) pay $900 for a Stella 14k with a view to an upgraded rod in future

Put the 10 000SW through a good test yesterday. We caught 10 GT's in about 2 hours time. Six to me and 4 to my mate.  Start to like it more even with the slower gear ratio. Just have to wind a bit faster. See photo's. Nothing big but up to about 30lb. Good fun. All fish have gone to needy people on the island.

HI stonefish,

I own a stella 18k and a saragosa 18k, not quite the sizes you are considering but similar concepts relate. Saragosa is good, stella is better. But as you know the saragosa is about half the price but not half as bad a reel. The stella is about double the price but is it twice as good? Confused yet?

What I guess I am saying is for NZ conditions ie kingfish, I think I would buy two saragosas as better value than one stella, or one saragosa put on a sweet rod is better than a stella on a budget rod.

If you are planning on fishing for GTs in the tropics, whole different set of rules, stella all the way for me.

But either way whatever you buy, stella or saragosa are both good. I have often heard the saragosa referred to positively as "the poor mans stella" i.e it has many similar components and parts to the stella but without the price tag. Shimano crew on here will know all the internal specs, details etc.As has been said saragosa is bang for buck and really good value, stella is nicer though so tough decision.......

just my opinion, many others will have different ideas than me.