The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums : Saragosa reel advice https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ Sat, 06 Jun 2026 08:22:47 +0000 Tue, 17 Dec 2013 08:18:20 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.01 360 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=96590 <![CDATA[The Fishing Website : Discussion Forums]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[Saragosa reel advice : Thanks guys, I&#039;ve given in...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1388535&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1388535 Author: Stonefish
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Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 8:18am

Thanks guys, I've given in to my TAS and gone with the Stella 14k. I figured that I'd be likely to be tempted to upgrade a to a Stella in the next couple of years and why not just go for it now.

Now to get a rod to match.....]]> Tue, 17 Dec 2013 08:18:20 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1388535&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1388535 <![CDATA[Saragosa reel advice : HI stonefish,I own a stella 18k...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1388432&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1388432 Author: alan syme
Subject: 96590
Posted: 16 Dec 2013 at 10:26pm

HI stonefish,

I own a stella 18k and a saragosa 18k, not quite the sizes you are considering but similar concepts relate. Saragosa is good, stella is better. But as you know the saragosa is about half the price but not half as bad a reel. The stella is about double the price but is it twice as good? Confused yet?

What I guess I am saying is for NZ conditions ie kingfish, I think I would buy two saragosas as better value than one stella, or one saragosa put on a sweet rod is better than a stella on a budget rod.

If you are planning on fishing for GTs in the tropics, whole different set of rules, stella all the way for me.

But either way whatever you buy, stella or saragosa are both good. I have often heard the saragosa referred to positively as "the poor mans stella" i.e it has many similar components and parts to the stella but without the price tag. Shimano crew on here will know all the internal specs, details etc.As has been said saragosa is bang for buck and really good value, stella is nicer though so tough decision.......

just my opinion, many others will have different ideas than me.]]> Mon, 16 Dec 2013 22:26:33 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1388432&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1388432 <![CDATA[Saragosa reel advice : Nice saffayakker,By the looks...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1388423&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1388423 Author: alan syme
Subject: 96590
Posted: 16 Dec 2013 at 10:16pm

Nice saffayakker,

By the looks of it I am guessing that your Tarawara GT's are ciguatera free? What about the big ones?

Cheers]]> Mon, 16 Dec 2013 22:16:32 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1388423&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1388423 <![CDATA[Saragosa reel advice : Put the 10 000SW through a good...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1388392&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1388392 Author: ET487
Subject: 96590
Posted: 16 Dec 2013 at 9:33pm

Put the 10 000SW through a good test yesterday. We caught 10 GT's in about 2 hours time. Six to me and 4 to my mate.  Start to like it more even with the slower gear ratio. Just have to wind a bit faster.LOL See photo's. Nothing big but up to about 30lb. Good fun. All fish have gone to needy people on the island.
]]> Mon, 16 Dec 2013 21:33:37 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1388392&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1388392 <![CDATA[Saragosa reel advice : Will have a video up tomorrow...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1384809&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1384809 Author: Kezza
Subject: 96590
Posted: 08 Dec 2013 at 8:05am

Will have a video up tomorrow showing the Saragosa10k and Stella14k fishing side-by-side....both catching plenty in both flat and windy conditions......the Saragosa is a lot of bang for your buck but if the buget allows then you know what you must do...:)]]> Sun, 08 Dec 2013 08:05:28 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1384809&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1384809 <![CDATA[Saragosa reel advice : Some good sound points there....]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1384657&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1384657 Author: Stonefish
Subject: 96590
Posted: 07 Dec 2013 at 7:20pm

Some good sound points there. So I'll let you all into my dilemma, I've got a $500 voucher to use at a tackle store, and I'm looking to upgrade my topwater setup, currently running the above rod with a Stradic 8000. Will be looking to get a new rod in the next 12 months or so.
Do I,
A) buy a Saragosa 10k which I'd pay nothing for
Or
B) pay $900 for a Stella 14k with a view to an upgraded rod in future


]]> Sat, 07 Dec 2013 19:20:35 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1384657&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1384657 <![CDATA[Saragosa reel advice : I&#039;ve got the 10k with 60lb...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1384456&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1384456 Author: Ballsout
Subject: 96590
Posted: 07 Dec 2013 at 6:54am

I've got the 10k with 60lb jb it holds around 270m, the other week when I was at White Island we all had a bit of a stickbait with it next to a 2008 stella 10k. It cast just as good and didn't have much trouble stick baiting with the saragosa, I will say that when the wind got up and we were really moving with the drift it was a bit easier with the stella having that bit faster retrieve. All and all everyone was happy with the saragosa mainly coz of the price and it going to do the job just as good, if you r looking at just landbase fishing I wouldn't go past the Saragossa.]]> Sat, 07 Dec 2013 06:54:42 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1384456&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1384456 <![CDATA[Saragosa reel advice : I did read that……. Cheers...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1384440&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1384440 Author: Titahi
Subject: 96590
Posted: 07 Dec 2013 at 12:10am

I did read that……. Cheers for the response. 



I was of the understanding that a lot of highly regarded fishermen will use the same reel when throwing stickbaits or poppers, granted they are typically 

Personally speaking I get hits on stickbaits and poppers using the same reel.

Both poppers and stickbaits can be used with a wide array of retrieve styles, not necessary limited by the speed of the reel.

But as you note, differnt strokes for different folks


]]> Sat, 07 Dec 2013 00:10:48 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1384440&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1384440 <![CDATA[Saragosa reel advice : I am not into stick baiting but...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1384394&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1384394 Author: ET487
Subject: 96590
Posted: 06 Dec 2013 at 10:12pm

I am not into stick baiting but it look like you need more than 4.9 gear ratio for stick baiting. Did you read that? What i found is that  a faster retrieve gaining line much faster than a slow retrieve and i do like less winding. A 5.7 gear ratio with 122cm line gain  is much better and easier on the person that 4.9 and 102cm line gain. But each person differs and that is my opinion only.
]]> Fri, 06 Dec 2013 22:12:35 +0000 https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1384394&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1384394 <![CDATA[Saragosa reel advice : saffayakker wrote:All the new...]]> https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=96590&PID=1384373&title=saragosa-reel-advice#1384373 Author: Titahi
Subject: 96590
Posted: 06 Dec 2013 at 9:25pm

Originally posted by saffayakker saffayakker wrote:

All the new  10k to 25 k Saragosas to slow for top water fishing. I am runing a 10 k at the moment with 60lb JB hallow. It just just fast enough for popper fishing. I am not into stick baiting but it look like you need more than 4.9 gear ratio for stick baiting. Not sure why Shimano ever drop the Twin Power as it a brilliant reel, much better than the current Saragosas.

I am  curious Saffayakker as to why stick baiting needs a faster retrieve than popper fishing?

Also isnt the amount of line retrieved  more significant as opposed to the gear ratio?


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