Jesusfreak  - welcome to the forums. I have a ramco 560 and use the same riggers. I placed mine as high as I could, which on my boat is the cabin sides. I probably gained a foot of height - but more importantly, they are out of the way, being forward of the cockpit area. I would have lost two rod holders if I'd mounted them on the side deck as well.

We planned to fight the fish forward and thought the height might also be useful for that, by giving us more space underneath the rigger. As it happens we find it easy enough to ditch the outrigger while fighting the fish by telescoping it and tucking it in the side pocket.

On the cabin sides we ended up having to put a plywood backing to stop the cabin side flexing and wracking. 

 

DA - I used that first but found it too soft. Had to go to plywood.

JF,

I assume you mean 12 foot Tel-o-riggers and not 12 metre - the boat I can fit 12m riggers to is still a few years down the track in my boating career.

Bender is correct. You want them as high on the sides of the boat as you can get them. One of the several reasons for having riggers at all is to give height to your towing point. Small boats have little enough height for all sorts of functions and you want to grab every inch you can. I often shake my head at boats of the size of yours that have small gunwhale mounted riggers. You see them out fishing and their towing point is not much higher than they would have running gear straight off the rod tip and considerably lower than they would get if they did not have riggers at all and just ran the outboard rods out of their rocket launcher - and they all seem to have a rocket launcher. If you do indeed have a rocket launcher you should be able to work out a way of mounting your riggers on that. Go to an American sportfishing site - they fish a lot from centre console boats and have many and various ways of mounting riggers from T-tops and the like. Just cruise around and look at pictures for ideas.

Make sure you still have access to adjustments to the halyard system (I prefer a system with NO bungy in it (use small yacht racing cleats) and 300lb mono is infinitely preferable to venetian blind type cord for the actual halyards) and angle the riggers back so that the tip of the outrigger is approximately in line with the transom when in 'deployed' position.

I reckon Tel-O-riggers, although good for small boats, are very soft even at the 12 foot length. I would very seriously look at rigging a foreguy system - you will find this transforms the performance especially if towing larger lures or baits. Fore guy sytems should run to the bow and then back to the cockpit for adjustment and be careful you don't 'point load' the riggers by over tightrning them. I have a system fitted to my 16ft riggers and I wouldn't be without it.

One thing I have found, and reading Obalds comments brings to mind the whipping and flex of the rigger when loaded i.e. towing lures etc, what I have found is to lower the length in which I tow the lure from the top of the rigger and dropping it back from the top about 2 foot helps heaps with the flex,{adjusting the halyard length would also do the same thing} I also have the added advantage of being able to a just the height of my riggers as they are arms which swing out from the boat unlike the chat-fields where unless you have them fixed to the top of the roof / hard top you can really only set them in one posse, being able to adjust the height allows me to lower them in the rough and height for the calm conditions.

My Halyards were all nylon coated cloths line which is a cheap as from the warehouse and very strong as it has a cord running up the middle of it, I have recently been trying heavy nylon which also works very well, the halyards are all tensioned with heavy bungee which works very well from the halyards I have 1 roller troller and 1 Perko peg this allows me to tow both skip or live baits and lures at the same time with skippers being the best while towing lures. The roller troller is fixed and the peg is able to be slid up and down the halyard to get the best posse in the water.

The reason for towing two lures baits etc from the out riggers is because I troll 6x 80�s 2 from the riggers and with two of them off each corner and sometimes have a 50 off the shotgun, I think when I had Barrie and Fish-bait out we were towing 8 lures at one stage, which is a lot but with an experienced crew the panic on hookup would be minimized.

In a trailer boat I think you cannot go past chatfields bases for the riggers over rod holder style, but in saying all this it comes down to what we can afford, a small suggestion is to approach a stainless manufacture and ask the to make some bases up for you, my young brother had some made up for his Bay liner which he could take down if he wished or leave them permanently up.

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BA ol' bean....

I added a few paragraphs in to your excellent post above....to achieve this I simply used the [Enter] key after what I interpreted to be a new train of thought or idea....try it you may even like it.......I know I for one will.

Thanks mate.

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I have to disagree with Obald and agree with Bender on the "stiffness" of Tel-o-Riggers....well the ones I have used at least have been more than stiff enough to do the job and release "on the bite", but then again using an ultra light setting on the Blacks Clip takes care of any real give in the system anyhoo?

Obald your rigger set up is very impressive indeed.....but has your hook-up ratio improved on your sticks since adding the foreguy tensioners?? serious question.

 

I am sure they would have been Tel-o-Riggers Swine.....out of curiosity what was the negative effect of the riggers being to "soft" as far as you are concerend mate?

Quote: Originally posted by Kerren on 03 May 2005

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I am sure they would have been Tel-o-Riggers Swine.....out of curiosity what was the negative effect of the riggers being to "soft" as far as you are concerend mate?

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They were casuing the lure to be pulled out of the water as they sprung backwards and forwards. When we stiffened them up, we stopped the lures from been pulled out of the water.

No but it made me feel better about how the lures ran and didnt make things any worse

here is a link that may help with out rigger rigging and instalation

http://www.reelax.com.au/pdf/ORIGGERSfit.pdf

 

strawberry

Bender, you want the tips of the riggers to line up with the stern of the boat as so as all your pulling points are the same allowing you to turn sharper. With shorter riggers however, spread maybe more important than turning.

Look at these old posts

http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=12&TopicID=7357&PagePosition=10