Single hook design: Is there a Market?

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I was going to keep this quiet with "dreams" of commercial success down the track. But the more I get into it the more I realise the investment to get this thing started is out of my reach and will be for some time....... although if someone with money and a 3D CNC router and likes the idea discussions are welcome! LOL or you can be dip-****s and steal it.

Just kidding really happy for this to be a hobby but I am simply interested if you guys would like to see a single hook designed stickbait on the market?

I've been designing and making stickbaits and one of my designs has been for single hooks as you can see in the vid its got a mint action, and given its swimming in an 8m pool its easy to work.

Its the only single hook stickbait I've made as doing the through wire for treble and hook insert is a lot of work. Since playing with that cherry pie and not having any issues with trebles I've been doing treble designs mostly.

Will let video and pics say the rest

Video is before I painted it.



Pictures are painted and its pretty crass but I'm learning.









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looks all good Marx. clean pool will make swimming easier. 
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Yeh pool is just about there! Vid was taken about 2 months ago
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Very nice! How about running a groove towards the head or somethnig, to allow you to use an assist hook from the front of the lure, instead of split ringing on the single? With a groove to hold the assist line and a space for the hook eye to sit up into as well, make it a more streamlined presentation of the single barb in the middle there?
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wonder if you could peg the hooks back like that on a standard lure off a staple or some thing? 
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You can easily run a rubber band forward from the rear loop if you want to stop the treble from flicking around, but would part of the attraction of the lure be the amount of rattle a loose treble would create?

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possibly I guess. don't hooks work best as a keel point up though ? 
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that has a really good looking action. nice work d00d
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Only theory (I studied civil engineering.... just to give credit to theory Wink) but I want to keep the hook as stable as possible.

Single hook definitely acting as a keel but also creating drag which assists in giving the tail end a push up which makes the head dive down.

Don't really like the rubber band concept but by using clips you are designing for a specific hook, is this case decoys. Making them formyself no probs but making for other people with different preferences in hooks it becomes a little difficult. Using dental rubber bands now so its not so bulky.

heres a photo of the hook insert


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Marx - Your skills as a thinking angler, and now lure builder never cease to amaze me mate... beautiful stickbait that, and great action on it....
 
 
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LIKE IT!.....keep us in the loop with progress.....choice!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Nepptune Nepptune wrote:

Marx - Your skills as a thinking angler, and now lure builder never cease to amaze me mate... beautiful stickbait that, and great action on it....
 
 


Cheers brother means a lot.

Originally posted by Kezza Kezza wrote:

LIKE IT!.....keep us in the loop with progress.....choice!!!!!!


cheers mate definitely will, got another batch on the go but for treble rigs. Might get back into perfecting the singles design
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I want to use singles to biff at beaky things this summer and had similar ideas but hadn't thought to butcher a store bought one with a groove - was going to hang one from the eye like an assist hook and rubber band it around the waist. Was thinking about breakaway hooks for poppers too. 
I'll look at a couple if you want....
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looks pretty sweet Marx ,but do you think a king will get some leverage of that rig and just bend the hook or even rip it out.
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Hook is supposed to pop out the rubber band will pop but yeh hasn't been put through the ropes yet. Might just make the insert shallower, at the mo goes deep inside bait and have to do some tricky stuff with through wire to get around.

Was supposed to test it out up North last but my reel broke then the fishing slowed.
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I see, have played around with the same sort of rig but didn't think to groove the bait out.
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Mean bro build those suckers up and pop ova and use the lathe to drill them out be a lot easyer
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Originally posted by green guy green guy wrote:

Mean bro build those suckers up and pop ova and use the lathe to drill them out be a lot easyer


Cheers bro actually gonna stick with two ply construction for now, getting it sussed and pretty much needed for single hook rigging.

Still need some tips on painting though
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Sixguns on this forum has painted some mean baits up ,shoot him a PM for some tips Marx
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When jigs first started using assists, then a lot of folks tried the rubber band thing to stop the hooks flying around so much. However, this has died out as it has been proven in the long run not to matter really. I suspect the same would apply to assists on stickbaits too.
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