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New subject, new thread, why not...
 
and if has been been done before 100 pages ago, apologies to the resident expertsLOL
 
So, what teasers do folk like and how do they run them?
 
Witchdoctors, Broomes Birds, rattlers, daisy chains, spreader bars, floats, fenders...Bring it on
 
I was talking to BA about them and he personally reckons Witchdoctors put the bonito off...
However, having said that I have been on a boat that towed one all day and we still caught bonitos.
 
We used to tow 18 inch cresents Wink they used to make quite a commotion in the wake, sometimes even big dog food cans with lids on in a daisy chain full on nuts and bolts to make noise and rattle... as myself I like things that rattle and make noise with the theory that it makes fish curious to come up and have a look.
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cut the top off a 1.5 litre bottle and put some mono through a small hole in the middle of the bottom of the bottle and tow that.. we keeped mistaking it for a live skippys LOL so that would prob work
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wouldnt even be stupid to drag a length of chain around mate....

first time i come across chain being used was my first dive for kingies, the older guys had it sussed, nailing as many as they wonted, just lifted the chain up an down causing it to rattled, the kings come roaring in to check it out and got nailed.....

cant see why anything that makes a noise wont help pull the fish in, predators are always on the lookout and will check it out im sure.....   
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just remember the more crap you tow out the back the more gear you have to clear when the pandemonium begins!
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Originally posted by Lethal Lethal wrote:

wouldnt even be stupid to drag a length of chain around mate....

first time i come across chain being used was my first dive for kingies, the older guys had it sussed, nailing as many as they wonted, just lifted the chain up an down causing it to rattled, the kings come roaring in to check it out and got nailed.....

cant see why anything that makes a noise wont help pull the fish in, predators are always on the lookout and will check it out im sure.....   
 
Hadn't tought of that one, good idea Eric, yes I bet it works bloody well mateClap
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Originally posted by skidoggg skidoggg wrote:

just remember the more crap you tow out the back the more gear you have to clear when the pandemonium begins!
 
Yes I agree there Ski, don't over complicate the tow or the gear eh.
 
I s'pose you fullas drag your empty half G flagonsLOLClap
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depending how many crew on board  5 or 6 rods  1 or 2 bungys for skippys or alberts, mainly as an indicator  alberts get the fillets whipped off and put on ice  skippys get released or if we got enuf albies just leave the skippys on bungys as teasers !
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hookless lures......Thumbs Up.....like your idea of leaving skpiipes on the bungy Ski....nice mate......perhaps throwing  out the odd pillie or similar when ya get a fish up? often thought that might work to "tease" up a passive fish in to an angry one....dunoo....and don't really care either....

how many bonito you reckon do you have caught C'lot?
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sometimes if we get desperate we will chuck the spreader bar out tho it hasnt brought any fish up yet...
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Nah if you tow them the wrong way they fill up with water and sink KQ......
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s88t not much fishing would go on with her on your boat
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you legend Bekah!!!!!!!.....Heart
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Originally posted by Kezza Kezza wrote:



how many bonito you reckon do you have caught C'lot?
 
Lost count...and your point is?
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think he is getting at, if its here mate be more like skippies rather than bonito, trouble is i dont think these guys know you have traveled the world and been a few places
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no point at all....just checkin' Wacko....like BA we never used to catch many skippies/alberts on the bungies when we used to run the 'Doctor'...and never caught a bonito ever.
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Originally posted by Blue Asparagus Blue Asparagus wrote:

think he is getting at, if its here mate be more like skippies rather than bonito, trouble is i dont think these guys know you have traveled the world and been a few places
 
Oh I see, is that the issue with the resident expert, so bloody sorry to use the wrong name, funny though how all the bait sellers call it Bonito and not Skipjack, but they aren't blasted for it.
 
Why is it that this forum is becoming so bloody precious to post upon and not upset the resident expert wonkers and tosspots that know it all...Thumbs Down
 
Cos at the end of the day and when the tide comes in and the sun hits the ocean, we just want to fish, share ideas and thoughts, chew the fat with those that do it, collaborate with fellow fishos doing the same thing and not re-invent the wheel and make it square, but yet the wonkers shoot us down. 
 
So am I wrong in asking? ...shrug...sigh or just give up and let the jafas ruleDead
 
 
 
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get ya hand off it ya gripper.....I was asking you how many bonito you have caught and participating in a thread about teasers....if you feel backed in to some sort of corner over that; then it is you that have the problems I'm afraid........
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My boat is my teaser, as is any boat your fishing off for marlin.

there are two types, teasers, exciters, think it was mentioned a while back.

Over the years I have run a number of them
witch doctor, now dont get me wrong they work bloody well, I have 2 of them, I have not used em for a couple of seasons, I found if I wanted skippies I took the Dr out of the water, but when the tubes were full it got wet again, now one of them and those who have seen swear it has been dragged around a quarry. it has been nailed and smashed especially on the west coast
I used large cotton reels, bloody awesome in a daisy chain, did the same with old lures, tin cans etc etc they work, never brought a chain of cans home.
I know tow boone birds, weather on a lure rigged leader mainly on the shotty or in a line of 2 about 1.5m apart. these are on teaser reels. I believe these to be the best around, this is just my opinion and means nothing guys.

the idea is to get action on the surface and pull fish to your boat, have you ever wondered why some lures work lots better than others, is it the colour. is it the action, well I now believe its the noise the lure head makes as it punches the water, this also relayed to me by a top game fishoe and lure maker.

so making a commotion on the water with noise and white water is the idea i recon.

one other addition to my teaser set up is a set of mirrors on my hull, do they work, you betcha they do but they aint for the faint hearted, you only have to look at the ones on my starboard side to see why.
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Originally posted by Kezza Kezza wrote:

get ya hand off it ya gripper.....I was asking you how many bonito you have caught and participating in a thread about teasers....if you feel backed in to some sort of corner over that then you have the problems!
 
You are simply amazing...do you have anything good or kind to say or do you just know it all and so we should just not post and not ask and just bow down and prey to Packa/Mecca head that knows it all.
 
Apologies all for even suggesting such a post...far can al, won kers r us, jafas will nva change, see ya at the weigh station or on the end of the tag pole.
 
 
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Originally posted by Blue Asparagus Blue Asparagus wrote:

My boat is my teaser, as is any boat your fishing off for marlin.

there are two types, teasers exciters, think it was mentioned a while back.

Over the years I have run a number of them
witch doctor, now dont get me wrong they work bloody well, I have 2 of them, I have not used em for a couple of seasons, I found if I wanted skippies I took the Dr out of the water, but when the tubes were full it got wet again, no one of them and those who have seen swear it has been dragged around a quarry.
I used large cotton reels, bloody awesome in a daisy chain, did the same with old lures, tin cans etc etc they work, never brought a chain of cans home.
I know tow boone birds, weather on a lure rigged leader mainly on the shotty or in a line of 2 about 1.5m apart. these are on teaser reels. I believe these to be the best around, this is just my opinion and means nothing guys.

the idea is to get action on the surface and pull fish to your boat, have you ever wondered why some lures work lots better than others, is it the colour. is it the action, well I now believe its the noise the lure head makes as it punches the water, this also relayed to me by a top game fishoe and lure maker.

so making a commotion on the water with noise and white water is the idea i recon.

one other addition to my teaser set up is a set of mirrors on my hull, do they work, you betcha they do but they aint for the faint hearted, you only have to look at the ones on my starboard side to see why.
 
Nice mate nice, good constructive comments that make real sense, excellent I hope that helps people that are out there trying and thinking of new ideas to raise the fish.
 
Lots of ideas and lots of devices can and do raise the fish and obviously time when we don't want them out and deployed.
 
This sort of stuff is my opinion for the small boat guys to raise the bar and attraction for those that feel that small boats with clean water behind the stern don't cause enough noise and wake behind there trolling, maybe for the yachts too. So good stuffClap
 
 
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