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This Jones bay thing has me thinking:
 
Wouldn't it be cool if we could make a burley bag out of something biodegradable (flax?) and chuck a frozen bomb in there (minus packaging obviously) and a heavy rock and lob it out off the rocks or drop it in from a kayak etc?
 
I know we can paddle bags out hanging under floats etc, but this means we have to pick them up again at the end of the day and also introduces more snags for casting as well as fighting solid crafty fish (kings and XOS snapper etc)
 
Does anyone happen to be married to a crafty old wahine with mad flax skills??
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nice idea but sounds like a pain in the ass to make a burley cage foe each burley ya go through...
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Thats why you get the missus to make it for you!
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Great idea.....but I find it hard enough to get the missus to make dinner!! Ouch
 
There must be a better way......
 
This may be dumb and stupid but.....How much current is there? What would happen if you just chuck out a bomb...no bag....just the berley?
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Still frozen it would float away.  Half frozen it would sink and be gone in a matter of minutes.  On sunday we went through 10kg of burley in about an hour courtesy of the wave action.

Was an awesome burley trail though bits floating every where I looked for hours.
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The idea of a biodegradable solution is a good idea....trouble is.... I got no idea Confused
 
I am not used to using berley at all. How would you have distributed the mussel berley if ropo had got it. I'm sure it wouldnt have been in convenient bags.
 
This is an interesting problem and I for one am interested in the solution. Having said that I'm all for just chucking it all (or most) in the shallows (over a period of time) and letting it wash out at will.
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Yeah I don't mean specifically for this trip, just thinking in general. Could be some potential here...
 
 
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with one tonne of burley I would have made the mother of all burley flingers http://willrhale.googlepages.com/catapult_sample.jpg/catapult_sample-full.jpg something like that but smaller I reckon.

But yeah I get realy iffy about my burley bags getting ripped up and drifting away in tiny none bio degradable bits.  Used to use a spring with heavy netting around it which was awesome for catch greedy piper.  But it swam away with a bronzie in an expermint gone wrong.  Was also a pain in the ass to haul around.  But it made less mess and didn't float away in tiny bits.

The other thing is that you don't want to just biff the burley out and let it break up.  Keeping it at your feet and in good current/movement is just as good.  Putting out down current of you then fishing into the end of the trail is what I like to do when I can.  So hanging it off a ledge it would need to take a fair bit of a beating.  Can't think of anything bio degradeable that would be cheap and convient as a nylon sack
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yep i've thought of this too, you need to get a kite flax bag to use, and anchor with a rock
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Not biodegradable but we use cray net as our burley bags and they are great. Very durable so wont fall apart in the swell and dont scare the fish. You only need one which will last you ages. I've had mine for a few years now and highly recommend them
 
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There used to be a guy fishing the bricks around from Campbells/Castor Bays. Had a pot of berley and a scoop, bit like an icecream scoop, on a what looked like a 2 ft fibreglass stick. Scooped and flicked a good distance, covered a wide area, and no fuss when you moved. Caught some nice fish too.
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That sounds like one of those things pet owners use to fling a tennis ball for their dogs. Think i'll try that. Cheers.
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that would be the ball throwing stick pet shops sell
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Try some of the asian fishing stores for the scoops. I picked up one from the store in Mt Albert (Cheers Fishing) for $5. I did need to araldite the scoop back on after a couple of sessions though.
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Scoops could well be the right way to go at Jones Bay given the volume of people and burley.
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Probably no good for this covert operation, but for future reference -

Peat Pots from garden centre.

Pour berley into pot with rock
Freeze

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That is a cracking idea HLD!
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Hmmm, what about paper-mache? Cheap, biodegradeable and ya can get the kids to make 'em I think I've just found a new use for my kids
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I've heard speak of "berley grenades", which I think were frozen balls of fish gunk around a greywacke stone. May have been a salty rumour, as I never saw them myself, and the guy who told me about them (Franco) is a hippy. However, it seems like a good idea, as it should sink, and wouldn't leave any trash in ol' mother ocean.
 
 I don't know how you'd freeze each grenade to shape- perhaps in the wife's favourite coffee mug?
 
 Paper mache and peat pots sound like good ideas, fellers, keep up the good work.
 
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