Biodegradable burley dispenser
Printed From: The Fishing Website
Category: Saltwater Fishing
Forum Name: Landbased & Surfcasting
Forum Description: From rocks or beaches, here's the place for the landbased fishos to share information
URL: https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43491
Printed Date: 04 Nov 2026 at 6:15pm
Topic: Biodegradable burley dispenser
Posted By: Telecaster
Subject: Biodegradable burley dispenser
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 2:49pm
|
This Jones bay thing has me thinking:
Wouldn't it be cool if we could make a burley bag out of something biodegradable (flax?) and chuck a frozen bomb in there (minus packaging obviously) and a heavy rock and lob it out off the rocks or drop it in from a kayak etc?
I know we can paddle bags out hanging under floats etc, but this means we have to pick them up again at the end of the day and also introduces more snags for casting as well as fighting solid crafty fish (kings and XOS snapper etc)
Does anyone happen to be married to a crafty old wahine with mad flax skills??
|
Replies:
Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 6:27pm
|
nice idea but sounds like a pain in the ass to make a burley cage foe each burley ya go through... ------------- I do not lie about fishing, I willingly participate in a campaign of misinformation. |
Posted By: Telecaster
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 7:27pm
| Thats why you get the missus to make it for you! |
Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 7:39pm
  ------------- I do not lie about fishing, I willingly participate in a campaign of misinformation. |
Posted By: wnw
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 8:32pm
Great idea.....but I find it hard enough to get the missus to make dinner!! 
There must be a better way......
This may be dumb and stupid but.....How much current is there? What would happen if you just chuck out a bomb...no bag....just the berley?
|
Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 8:44pm
|
Still frozen it would float away. Half frozen it would sink and be gone in a matter of minutes. On sunday we went through 10kg of burley in about an hour courtesy of the wave action. Was an awesome burley trail though bits floating every where I looked for hours. |
Posted By: wnw
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 8:55pm
The idea of a biodegradable solution is a good idea....trouble is.... I got no idea 
I am not used to using berley at all. How would you have distributed the mussel berley if ropo had got it. I'm sure it wouldnt have been in convenient bags.
This is an interesting problem and I for one am interested in the solution. Having said that I'm all for just chucking it all (or most) in the shallows (over a period of time) and letting it wash out at will.
|
Posted By: Telecaster
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 9:41pm
|
Yeah I don't mean specifically for this trip, just thinking in general. Could be some potential here...
|
Posted By: Zambezi
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2009 at 10:41pm
|
with one tonne of burley I would have made the mother of all burley flingers http://willrhale.googlepages.com/catapult_sample.jpg/catapult_sample-full.jpg - http://willrhale.googlepages.com/catapult_sample.jpg/catapult_sample-full.jpg something like that but smaller I reckon. But yeah I get realy iffy about my burley bags getting ripped up and drifting away in tiny none bio degradable bits. Used to use a spring with heavy netting around it which was awesome for catch greedy piper. But it swam away with a bronzie in an expermint gone wrong. Was also a pain in the ass to haul around. But it made less mess and didn't float away in tiny bits. The other thing is that you don't want to just biff the burley out and let it break up. Keeping it at your feet and in good current/movement is just as good. Putting out down current of you then fishing into the end of the trail is what I like to do when I can. So hanging it off a ledge it would need to take a fair bit of a beating. Can't think of anything bio degradeable that would be cheap and convient as a nylon sack |
Posted By: SeaI
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 7:45am
|
yep i've thought of this too, you need to get a kite flax bag to use, and anchor with a rock ------------- Kei uta ngā ika |
Posted By: JK
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 8:26am
|
Not biodegradable but we use cray net as our burley bags and they are great. Very durable so wont fall apart in the swell and dont scare the fish. You only need one which will last you ages. I've had mine for a few years now and highly recommend them
http://www.wildblue.co.nz/products/index_dynamic/containerNameToReplace=Middle/focusModuleID=3521/overideSkinName=shoppingSystem-Product.tpl - http://www.wildblue.co.nz/products/index_dynamic/containerNameToReplace=Middle/focusModuleID=3521/overideSkinName=shoppingSystem-Product.tpl ------------- LedgeNZ LBG |
Posted By: Fishful Thinking
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 8:50am
|
There used to be a guy fishing the bricks around from Campbells/Castor Bays. Had a pot of berley and a scoop, bit like an icecream scoop, on a what looked like a 2 ft fibreglass stick. Scooped and flicked a good distance, covered a wide area, and no fuss when you moved. Caught some nice fish too. ------------- PhD: Pool Hall Diploma |
Posted By: Nohoper
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 10:16am
| That sounds like one of those things pet owners use to fling a tennis ball for their dogs. Think i'll try that. Cheers. |
Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 10:17am
|
that would be the ball throwing stick pet shops sell ------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 10:21am
|
Try some of the asian fishing stores for the scoops. I picked up one from the store in Mt Albert (Cheers Fishing) for $5. I did need to araldite the scoop back on after a couple of sessions though. ------------- I do not lie about fishing, I willingly participate in a campaign of misinformation. |
Posted By: wnw
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 10:26am
| Scoops could well be the right way to go at Jones Bay given the volume of people and burley. |
Posted By: Hairy Little Dwarf
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 10:42am
|
Probably no good for this covert operation, but for future reference - Peat Pots from garden centre. Pour berley into pot with rock Freeze To deploy, unwrap, lob.  ------------- The Dreaded Shark-Eating Man! |
Posted By: Telecaster
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 12:00pm
| That is a cracking idea HLD! |
Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 12:11pm
Hmmm, what about paper-mache? Cheap, biodegradeable and ya can get the kids to make 'em  I think I've just found a new use for my kids ------------- I do not lie about fishing, I willingly participate in a campaign of misinformation. |
Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 12:56pm
|
I've heard speak of "berley grenades", which I think were frozen balls of fish gunk around a greywacke stone. May have been a salty rumour, as I never saw them myself, and the guy who told me about them (Franco) is a hippy. However, it seems like a good idea, as it should sink, and wouldn't leave any trash in ol' mother ocean.
I don't know how you'd freeze each grenade to shape- perhaps in the wife's favourite coffee mug?
Paper mache and peat pots sound like good ideas, fellers, keep up the good work.
|
Posted By: Ahab
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 1:02pm
| Another emergency berley I've used a few times is a tin of fish- based cat food, although this of course means you have a filthy tin to carry back out. It works out very cheaply, though, and for some reason, it drives sprats (Yellow Eyed Mullet) out of their minds with excitement. |
Posted By: fisher
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 1:18pm
| How about a piece of large diameter bamboo, holes drilled through it all over the place, put the frozen bomb inside, tie a rope to the top and fling it in. After use, once waterlogged the bamboo will sink and decompose. Or just chuck it in the bush. The hard bit is finding bamboo large enough for the bombs, but fine for any homemade stuff. |
Posted By: Telecaster
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 1:46pm
| Awesome ideas guys - keep 'em coming! |
Posted By: Ritual Groove Meister
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 4:03pm
|
Why???? Like JK mentioned, I've got a homemade burley bag made out of craypot mesh - COOKES fishing supplies - A rock gets chucked in if I'm rock fishing or a large car spring when in a boat - wahlah instant wobbly pot minus the $150 price tag. I just can't understand the need for biodegradable, just get something a bit more hard wearing and keep using it. I must admit I hate seeing onion sacks getting left around the place. |
Posted By: EditB
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2009 at 4:48pm
|
ngututamere I think the main aim for this thread is for the upcoming berley bombing of Jones Bay and not wanting to litter the area with plastic and onion sacks... ------------- I do not lie about fishing, I willingly participate in a campaign of misinformation. |
Posted By: DLS
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2009 at 5:26pm
|
There is a biodegradable berley bomb on the market but forgotten name (something like teazer). It's roughly the size of a beer can and looks like a white grenade which you pull side of before deploying. Apparently it disolves over about 5 hours and it's full of some kind of pellets. Was tested in Napier aquarium and snapper went nuts. Don't know if you'll find any shops with it, apart from Guns and tackle Napier possibly. I think most shops got samples but no one really took them on. Only thing is i got a couple to try and hard to tell if they worked or not. They're not very heavy so may get washed away with tide?? The ideas there though.
|
Posted By: ropo101
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2009 at 7:22pm
|
may sound a bit sick ,but after living on farms as a young nipper the amount of sheep intestines and stomachs that got thrown to the eels would have made grerat burley dispensers and totally biodegradable???? ------------- V8 Super Cars are back,Go the holdens!!! |
Posted By: Telecaster
Date Posted: 01 Aug 2009 at 11:05pm
| Interesting - you could make burley sausages, freeze them, and just punch some holes in it before lobbing it out... |
Posted By: ropo101
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2009 at 9:45am
|
thats what i was thinking or fill the stomach with rocks and burley so it will sink!!! ------------- V8 Super Cars are back,Go the holdens!!! |
Posted By: Fish Hard
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2009 at 8:59am
|
Check out www.fishtza.com . Made right here NZ. PM me if you would like to get hold of some. WORLD FIRST compound 10 incased in completely dissolvable polymer.
No messy berley/chum cleans ups, no pollutants left behind – T-ZA is an easy, economical and effective replacement for your traditional berley/chum. ------------- TopCatch Glen Innes 09 521 5732 [email protected] www.topcatch.co.nz |
Posted By: dirtyharry
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2009 at 12:23pm
|
Berley Grenades are easy to make. Use the 150gm yoghurt pots or similar as moulds and mix burley with 30% sand and freeze. Just lob them out as necessary, the sand helps them sink and that's all thats left when they dissolve.
------------- I waste most of my money on fishing tackle. The rest I invest in women and booze. |
Posted By: Carbine
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2009 at 1:21am
|
Paper lolly bags with a rock in the bottom, berley thrown in thawed out and refrozen so when you biff the bags out the paper slowly breaks up and they sit on the bottom thawing out releasing bits, plus you can throw them all over the show and get good distance out of them. buy some 80mm pvc pipe cut into sections about 100mm tall sitting on a board or in a container in the freezer throw a small rock inside and fill to the top with some thrawed out berley and pack the tubes untill full. When frozen whack them on the ground to pop them out the pipe and you can throw them a good distance and can make heaps up out of the standard 1.5kg berley bombs. |
Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2009 at 8:06am
|
your on to it Carb got a mate dos that works fine found better if rock 1/2 way up though ------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |
Posted By: Fish Hard
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2009 at 9:05am
|
NZ made Fish T-Za. I have been given 4 only Fish T-Za twin packs as samples. The first 4 forum members to PM me can pick up a sample pack from TCGI for free. All we ask for in return is some feedback on the product along with a discussion on how it is to be trialed. One Leg, I have a free sample pack for you in responce to your PM. ------------- TopCatch Glen Innes 09 521 5732 [email protected] www.topcatch.co.nz |
Posted By: ropo101
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2009 at 2:19pm
|
just picked uo a sample pack of bio degradable burley from craig at top catch GI , will be intresting to see how these little contraptions pan out...Cheers craig will be in touch..Ivor
------------- V8 Super Cars are back,Go the holdens!!! |
Posted By: kadin32815
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2009 at 6:47pm
|
you can bye bio-degradable berley now its in a weird plastic bomb looks kinda lyk a big grande the local dairy gave me a twin pac it was a sample the plastic or wat ever it is desolvs you justb pull a tab and it makes a small hole cant rememba wat its called
|
Posted By: ropo101
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2009 at 2:26pm
|
thats the ones bro... ------------- V8 Super Cars are back,Go the holdens!!! |
Posted By: one leg
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2009 at 6:45pm
|
Fish Hard never made it out for a fish Sunday so will pick up off Matt tues week and give it a go saturday if fine. ------------- woman who say they are equal to men ,show lack of Ambition . |